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Old 01-24-2013, 01:53 AM   #27
zagor
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Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen View Post
We'll have to agree to disagree, Zagor. Of course it is subjective, but I feel like the separation is enough right now that by any attempt to use objective criteria, you will come out with Fed ahead of Sampras.
Yes but these things are not always decided by a set of objective criteria, remember people were already claiming (rightly or wrongly) Fed is the greatest ever back in 2006 because they were so impressed by his level of play from 2004-2006 period.

Heck, look at Laver's list for example:

From the past
10. John Newcombe (AUS)
9. Jack Crawford (AUS)
8. Bobby Riggs (USA)
7. Ellsworth Vines (USA)
6. Ken Rosewall (AUS)
5. Fred Perry (GBR)
4. Don Budge (USA)
3. Pancho Gonzalez (USA)
2. Jack Kramer (USA)
1. Lew Hoad (AUS)

From the Open era
10. Stefan Edberg (SWE)
9. Ivan Lendl (USA)
8. Jimmy Connors (USA)
7. Andre Agassi (USA)
6. Novak Djokovic (SER)
5. Rafael Nadal (ESP)
4. John McEnroe (USA)
3. Pete Sampras (USA)
2. Bjorn Borg (SWE)
1. Roger Federer (SUI)

He put Hoad at #1 solely for his peak play and also put McEnroe ahead of Nadal and Borg ahead of Sampras even though stats would dictate otherwise.

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Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen View Post
The other alternative is to be too inclusive which leads to long lists of potential goats, which is honestly the most fair, but also the least interesting, as it doesn't leave much room for discussion or flared tempers.
Well IMO a GOAT list that doesn't include Sampras is not inclusive enough.
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