Originally Posted by The_Order
I'm not saying Fed's draws were **** easy (except 2006), but when I compare to who Novak had to beat to earn his titles:
2008 - Fed #1 and Tsonga
2011 - Fed #2 and Murray #5
2012 - Murray #4 and Nadal #2
2013 - Ferrer #4 and Murray #3
Apart from Murray in 2011, Tsonga's the only one not seeded top 4 and in that final he kept his level up from the previous 08 matches.
Then I look at Fed's:
2004 - Hewitt #15, Nalby #8, Ferrero #3 and Safin
2006 - Davydenko #5, Kiefer and Baghdatis
2007 - Roddick #6 and Gonzalez #10
2010 - Tsonga #10 and Murray #5
I think it's pretty clear Novak has had the tougher run and still has 4 titles, which imo ranks him as the AO GOAT in the open era.
oh please, murray AO 2011 and ferrer AO 2013 were pushovers ...
in 2011, murray wasn't playing that well, struggled crazily vs ferrer and won in big part due to ferrer playing horrible breakers .. ended up playing a sh*t final, much worse than the AO 2010 one .. (should've been bagelled in the 2nd set, but looked like novak took pity and gave him 2 games instead
ferrer in 2013 should've lost to almagro, who ended up mega-choking ...
you could've added stan for AO 2013 instead ..
2006 was haas, davydenko, baghdatis
2010 was davydenko, tsonga and murray
almost everyone in the list I mentioned for fed were clearly better than murray in AO 2011 and ferrer in AO 2013
also tsonga's level dropped off a bit in the 2008 final just like gonzo's did in AO 2007 ...