Originally Posted by TheLambsheadrep
What about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CrWFui1jW4
and I think this is very similar your first tsonga video with more of his early stroke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VVCiegIGQY
I see the wrist gets good whip, but not seeing the same from his forearm (which looks to me like it moves right with the arm above the elbow, which is moving right with the shoulder). the second video describes what I was saying before about half the whip being gone - I know he's crushing the ball but it looks like it's bc the power from his leg push off (he's getting ups!). His arm's kinda lookin' like a dolphin flipper to me there. Either way, this would only be one modern forehand example of what I was saying, so maybe, maybe not
he doesn't get in ptd position and he also doesn't pronate much. that's why.