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Old 01-28-2013, 10:07 AM   #165
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You are using a few occasions where Roddick played well against Fed, but you are forgetting a rather important detail. Roddick was Federer's Pidgeon. This means that even when Roddick had his chances against Fed, the mental scarring would still cause him to lose. See the YEC match where IIRC Roddick had MPs and still lost. See the second set TB in WIM09 where Roddick missed a relatively simple BH volley. If he didn't have that mental scarring he probably would've won those matches. Same with 04 WIM when the rain delay threw his momentum off. I wouldn't call it Fed being much better rather than Fed getting lucky his opponent cracked. Berdych otoh was mentally strong enough to get on with the job.

Not to mention that Hewitt, Davydenko and old Agassi have nowhere near as much power as Delpo or Berdych and are nowhere near as good as Novak defensively. Fed lost to them because they have more weapons.
lol, clueless, berdych was federer's pigeon as well, was 1-8 vs him before 2009, 0 sets in first 3 slam matches, far less competitive than roddick was ....that apart from fed picking up his level was one of the reasons for him losing in AO 2009 4R

fact is fed was terrible in wim 10 QF and USO 2012 QF ...that's why berdych capitalized and was major part of the reason why he was able to remain 'calm' on those occasions ...

roddick of course had blasted berdych off court in wim 09 in straights

ferrer/hewitt etc have belted delpo/berdych off court

davydenko blasted delpo off court in the YEC 2009 final as well ...

he owns berdych h2h 9-2 as well ...

the 2nd set TB missed volley in 2009 wim final was just that ...there was a moment of indecision from roddick whether to play it or leave it and the botched volley was the result ... roddick himself said that it was the indecision that cost him ...

in any case, he managed to pick himself up to take the 3rd set to a breaker , won the 4th and the 5th went to 16-14 with roddick serving from behind to stay in the match plenty of times ...

there wasn't that much of a scarring in wim 04 ... as for the rain, there were plenty of breaks in the match before the rain (federer had broken thrice, roddick had broken 4 times IIRC) ... roddick was ahead by a break in the 3rd set, that's it ...


coming back to delpo, delpo won in USO 2009 because he was somehow able to hold on and capitalize on fed's mistakes .... stupid FH drop shot started the chain of events in the 2nd set ....fed served the worst he probably has in a GS match ... the only difference in the 4th set breaker was a DF from fed - mini-break ...

their RG 2009 match, both were playing better and fed fended him off there ...


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In that case the fourth set at WIM06 was also competitive. So now that's 3 competitive sets to Hewitt's 2 from 04 WIM. Either way, Rafa gave Fed his toughest WIM match since Fed won it apart from Roddick 04.
lol, the 4th set in the 2006 final wasn't that competitive at all ...IIRC, fed was up a double break, but got a bit casual to get broken ....but then finished it off ....

rafa played better but hewitt was closer to taking it to a decider , he had BP at 4 all in the 4th set ....

a somewhat similar case would be fed-roddick USO matches in 2006 and 2007 ...roddick had some chance to go up 2-1 in the 2006 match though he played quite a bit better in the 2007 QF and didn't win a set ...

it happens .....

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They couldn't expose it like Rafa. Hence the 0 slam victories against him.
already said they couldn't do it like rafa did...doesn't mean they didn't couldn't/didn't expose his BH when it was slightly off ...

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