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Old 01-28-2013, 12:05 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by 10isfreak View Post
When I explain grips, I used both the index knuckle and the heel pad... always. An eastern grip, in the sense that I intended to use the word and did use the word, fits very few hands positions only. Starting with bevel one on top, rotation toward your racket hand from 1 to 8, the eastern forehand is both of these references on the third bevel, period.

That's what I call a standard grip and that's how I have learnt them as well. When I talk about the eastern back, again, both references on the top of the racket (that's bevel number one).

Of course, there are huge problems with these names... as you lessen the grip size relative to the hand, it becomes nearly impossible to hold a standard grip at all. Federer and Nadal play with grips something like 2 grip size less than the conventional measure would advocate. Even by trying, they can't get their heel pad on the same bevel as their index finger.
I think what you're saying is that your index knuckle and heelpad are both on bevel 1.

If that works for you, then that's great.

But that's not what the pros do, and I think it's a bad grip for most players. 1-8 is probably the least mildest that should be used, and 1-7.5 or 1-7 is probably most useful.

Also, using an undersized handle isn't enough to account for a 2-bevel change in heel pad position (especially since most these guys use oversized buttcaps.

Originally Posted by 10isfreak View Post
It seems to me that their hands are quite a bit more angled with the handle than the suggested grip form you uploaded...
Probably two reasons:

1. Federer does not use the grip illustrated by Fabian Seixa above. Seixa's grip is pretty strong, with his heelpad probably squarely on bevel 7. Federer's grip is more mild, with his heel pad around the lower 8, or maybe 7/8 edge. So the greater angle shouldn't be surprising.

2. They are all swinging, and their wrists have probably bent outwards slightly (ulnar deviation).

Here Gasquet has a pretty sharp angle.

Just to be clear, the grip illustrated by Seixa is a pretty strong one and isn't right for everyone. But I think it's a much better defaul grip than what Google search returns.
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