Originally Posted by abmk
Before 2011, h2h was 16-7 in favour of nadal
all 7 of djokovic's wins were on HC and *all* were in *straights* ... he won all those by blowing nadal off court
nadal outlasted him every other time, including on HC ....
the pattern that changed in 2011 was that nole beat nadal at his own game ... even on HC, djoker didn't blow nadal off court, he grinded him down, outlasted him .... nole beating nadal on HC isn't a big surprise , but it was the pattern which he used that was a 'surprise'.
So let's not kid ourselves by saying , oh, nole used to beat him before on HC, its not a big deal if he does it in 2011 and later ...
After a tense 3 setter vs murray @ rome in 2011, he appeared as fresh as ever in the final and beat nadal in straights by grinding him down, not going for all out offense
I'm not saying this is 'proof' of nole doping , but things did change in 2011 & later and it was a significant change
I don't understand why people are focusing on "straight set victories" and bagel sets; you don't get any more credit for winning 2,2, and 2 then you do for 10-8 in the 5th set. More important than how many straight set wins Nole had is the fact that the 16-7 result prior to 2011 was comprised of an enormous edge on dirt for Nadal, and no edge whatsoever on all matches NOT played on dirt. That is no longer true, so, moving from very competitive off of dirt, not competitive on it, to superior on the latter, very competitive on the latter is the result, a combination, IMO, of Nole's improvement overall and BP's decline-funny how male players who excel on dirt don't seem to enjoy long careers, for one reason or another-Borg, Kuerten and now BP come to mind, among others. Surprising, isn't it, since we're always told of how much easier dirt is on the players...