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Old 04-11-2013, 05:09 PM   #146
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Originally Posted by rkelley View Post
5263, great to see you back.

Wrt the fh, at this point in my tennis life I have the opposite thing going on. I really focus on always wiping up and across the ball. The through-the-ball part just happens for me. Perhaps it's my grip (almost SW). It's so easy for me to get too much through-the-ball happening and not enough spin, and then the ball starts going long. I need that spin to keep the ball in. And I'm only hitting generally about 2 to 3 feet over the net.

But I hit pretty flat more most of my tennis life. It's hard to know what effect that had.

I don't change my stroke for hitting light. It's still up and across. I use the same motion and form as when I'm hitting hard and I just slow down the swing speed and usually go for more spin and more net clearance.
Thanks and good to be back!
I think most of what you say here is the most common situation. Most players
that have played awhile tend to get at least ok shoulder turn and pull to the
ball, which will take care of hitting thru the ball due to the forces involved.
So most need to be better at the up and across aspect of the swing.
Folks who are focused on the "thru the ball" concept don't see these players as
needing work and mostly just see them as needing more practice to keep the
balls in (or tighter strings etc.. )

And yes, there are those out there who don't get much or any shoulder turn with
good pull to the ball. Often these same players will also tend to pull to the side,
leading with their head and "pull off the ball" as it is called. So yes that happens
with some self taught modern players.
But with our instruction...not so much.
Good modern stroke production highlights pulling the the ball and adjusting the
amount of shoulder turn largely based on how much power you intend. So you
get very good shoulder turn and this leads to forces that get the racket head
strongly thru the ball as it travels up and across. You don't have to teach or
focus on the "thru aspect", as it is created by a solid pull to the ball.

That where your comments throw me a bit. You say you slow the swing speed
and go for more spin. Imo that is not the best way, and I tend to think of
it as even increasing the swing speed (slightly) when going for more spin,
along with increasing the up aspect of the swing (not when on the rise though).
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