Originally Posted by sureshs
That is not correct. A kick serve is hit up. Your coach should have asked to imagine hitting up, as it is actually hit up.
Pat uses the term kick serve for his top-slice serve, and he is also probably wrong.
He was describing the kick serve when I tossed far into the court. Not the rec stand in one place and let it hit your head loopy slow kick serve. He was trying to get me to hit the ball hard with kick. The up is a given. I understood what a kick serve was. He wanted to get more pace into the shot. It is all feel based. Its not science. That's the point you miss.