View Single Post
Old 07-18-2013, 07:03 PM   #42
Chas Tennis
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 3,129
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raul_SJ View Post
Elbow out - is an undefined term. It is shown, I guess, in the video. ? No reason is given for why it is to be held in that way. ?

Jeff Salzenstein didn't get into the technical explanation but the elbow at the trophy pose should not be inline with the body -- it's like you are "elbowing the enemy" standing behind you.

I believe my elbow was inline with the body with my previous motion.

Now, when I "elbow the enemy", I feel a stretch in the chest muscles and some sensation in the right shoulder blade-- seems like energy is being stored and then later released -- resulting in a powerful serve.

Jeff says he has gotten instant results with students on this tip and it seems to work for me, (although I have just begun to try it out.)

Haven't checked the Ellenbecker video yet but it seems like he also supports the same "elbow the enemy" position in the Jeff Salzenstein video ?
In most high speed videos it might be difficult to see how the upper arm aligns with the plane(?) of the body. I think that these serve views from above show the upper arm-body alignment.

(You can often do stop-action single-frame on Youtube videos by using the arrow keys to advance or go back one frame.)

FYB Flat serve from Above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a9X_eTdg8I

FYB Kick Serve from Above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FpeYGG9XAg

FYB Slice Serve from Above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMgQWotcPYE

Raonic serve
https://vimeo.com/63688134

Federer serve
https://vimeo.com/63688132

I don't see the elbow back relative to the body.

Last edited by Chas Tennis : 07-18-2013 at 07:30 PM.
Chas Tennis is online now   Reply With Quote