USTA High performance coaches quitting

[willshot]

I've heard from the grapevine that 4 of them recently left the USTA. Wonder whats going on...... maybe you can't blame them for leaving.

[mrmo1115]

Do you know which coaches left?

[gauchotennis]

Definitely would like to know who has left, is this at Carson or Boca ?

[dannythomas]

I hope it's the coaches involved in the talent id program so someone can be brought in to choose kids on ability and talent instead of who you know in the USTA. Patrick Mcenroe and his team should have been fired long ago. Look at the complete absence of any young high level US players on the pro tour with any remote chance of getting into the top 10 or on the WTA tour the top 30. But then I almost forgot Quick Start will change all that. The whole of US tennis structure needs to be re- thought if there is any chance of competing with the Europeans.

[TennisCoachFLA]

I wish they would scrap the entire high performance nonsense. Throwing millions at a few select kids is silly. The USTA should support tennis, grow the game, and make tournaments and local coaching as affordable as possible. If a kid proves to be a true talent then pay for their private coach or an existing academy to train them further.

[polski]

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

I wish they would scrap the entire high performance nonsense. Throwing millions at a few select kids is silly. The USTA should support tennis, grow the game, and make tournaments and local coaching as affordable as possible. If a kid proves to be a true talent then pay for their private coach or an existing academy to train them further.

TennisCoachFla - You should apply for a job at the USTA. This is the best I have ever heard this stated & you did it in 60 words. If you implemented this, you would save the USTA millions of dollars (or redirect those funds better) & do a better job than they are doing.

I hope the USTA is reading these boards.

[mackimac]

I think we need to look at the college park tennis center and take notes from those guys. They seem to be doing a great job and its non profit and good for tennis.

[Milan]

Originally Posted by polski

TennisCoachFla - You should apply for a job at the USTA. This is the best I have ever heard this stated & you did it in 60 words. If you implemented this, you would save the USTA millions of dollars (or redirect those funds better) & do a better job than they are doing.

I hope the USTA is reading these boards.

the USTA is a MAFIA... don't go to them... they're like the US Government.. they expand and eat up and steal all the good players...

They under pay they coaches.. $18-32/hour which is a JOKE.....

John McEnroe just opened up his academy over here in NYC... he's using the courts of Sportime so they have a mutual relationship in which both are benefitting...

the story they won't tell you is that they are "GIVING SCHOLARSHIPS" but they're getting paid by the USTA for those kids anyways..

Pat McEnroe and John McEnroe just expanded their empire/Mafia by combining.. in Otherwords SPORTIME and USTA are 2 heads of the same Monster...

USTA money ($250 MILLION budget per year) is being given to Evert Academy and McEnroe Academy...and then those academies kick back to guys like Pat McEnroe who decides where the money goes...

THEN.....

John McEnroe goes and hires Gilad Bloom to run his academy as he'll never be around...a guy from ISRAEL of all places... not even an American Coach..

It's all a SCAM People.... wake up.. just like when CANAS, CORIA, and DAVYDENKO have SCANDALS.. but AGASSI RODDICK GINEPRI AND BLAKE could do all the steroids they want and never be caught..

It's time people wake up

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

I wish they would scrap the entire high performance nonsense. Throwing millions at a few select kids is silly. The USTA should support tennis, grow the game, and make tournaments and local coaching as affordable as possible. If a kid proves to be a true talent then pay for their private coach or an existing academy to train them further.

The whole system is in a bit of disarray.

---> Most private coaches cost between 60-90 per hour with some of the bigger names pushing 150+ (for a junior with zero or limited prospects at the time the coach starts with them).

---> Most full time academies are between 20 and 30K per 10 month school period.

---> Most tournaments are between 60 - 100 when room and board is added we are at roughly 500 - 1000 per away event.

The cream of the crop is not going to come from the group that can afford this. This group has zero desire to be professional touring players. This group is playing to include it in their Harvard, Stanford, Yale applications.

[gauchotennis]

TennisCoach,
you are right on the money. The talent ID portion of the USTA has never been developed properly. You would have to go into rural areas, inner cities all over really and develop a talent pool of athletes, no matter what race, socioeconomic level or what have you.

The very best players are the ones who start early with the best coaching and have drive.

[willshot]

i agree.... the usta stinks in this department. It seems like theres been too much of a corporate political game than anything. Alot of very talented kids can use the help......

dilouie and hugo are 2 of the 4 that are no longer there.

[mackimac]

speaking of that I saw Pasha play at Kalamazoo. that kid is not very good wasted alot of money on him

Originally Posted by mackimac

I think we need to look at the college park tennis center and take notes from those guys. They seem to be doing a great job and its non profit and good for tennis.

I think College Park is a "USTA regional center". So maybe they have looked at them already.

Originally Posted by mackimac

speaking of that I saw Pasha play at Kalamazoo. that kid is not very good wasted alot of money on him

He's not the only one, from the 14s on so much money is wasted on these guys. Look at 15 yr old Diguilio and his whole 1995 crew (full time at Boca, went to spain, so many w/c's, junior team to Serbia) and I don't think any of them are doing a thing.

[Soianka]

Originally Posted by mackimac

speaking of that I saw Pasha play at Kalamazoo. that kid is not very good wasted alot of money on him

Nathan Pasha is a very good player. He won the doubles and will be in the US Open in doubles this year.

He also has only been in Florida maybe the last 3 years. He came out of a local Atlanta city tennis center. USTA only notices you once you made a name for yourself or if your parents know somebody.

Anyway...I saw Madison Keys get her clock cleaned by Irina Falconi over the summer in a USTA pro circuit semi. I wasn't impressed at all but certainly not ready to say that the USTA is 'wasting' money on Keys or that she is no good based on seeing her play on a off day or an off week.

[Rob_C]

Originally Posted by Soianka

Anyway...I saw Madison Keys get her clock cleaned by Irina Falconi over the summer in a USTA pro circuit semi. I wasn't impressed at all but certainly not ready to say that the USTA is 'wasting' money on Keys or that she is no good based on seeing her play on a off day or an off week.

Didn't Keys beat a top 100 player in her 1st tour level match last year?? I saw that result and at least it was in the semis. Stuff happens, especially in womens tennis. Sharapova got double bageled by Daveport in the IW finals, and almost got DB'd by Cibulkova at the French, she was down 6-0, 5-0, save a couple of match pts and made it 0 & 2.

[Soianka]

Originally Posted by Rob_C

Didn't Keys beat a top 100 player in her 1st tour level match last year?? I saw that result and at least it was in the semis. Stuff happens, especially in womens tennis. Sharapova got double bageled by Daveport in the IW finals, and almost got DB'd by Cibulkova at the French, she was down 6-0, 5-0, save a couple of match pts and made it 0 & 2.

That was my point. You can't judge someone based on one match and determine that they are a waste of money or whatever that other guy said.

[The Dawgs]

Originally Posted by mackimac

speaking of that I saw Pasha play at Kalamazoo. that kid is not very good wasted alot of money on him

I guess the USTA looks pretty good on this one now. Pasha had a tremendous freshman season at UGA and his well on his way to a great career.

[Milan]

USTA should quit too

they need to stop producing roddick clones and let natural talent shine through.

[chalkflewup]

I disagree with TCF on this one. The private sector has failed many times over and will continue to take money from the rich regardless of their abilities. I believe USTA grows the game on numerous fronts well beyond the high performance program. It's a lot more complex than growing the game, making lessons cheap, etc...