How do you keep the last main tight when stringing in a dropweight?

THESEXPISTOL · 10-31-2010, 04:32 PM

How do you keep the last main tight when stringing in a dropweight?

I mean.. If i'm stringing the mains at let's say 22kgs i will change the tension to 24kgs on the last two mains of each side. But even when i do that the last main is very loose. I keep the knots tight.

lionel_101 · 10-31-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by THESEXPISTOL

How do you keep the last main tight when stringing in a dropweight?

I mean.. If i'm stringing the mains at let's say 22kgs i will change the tension to 24kgs on the last two mains of each side. But even when i do that the last main is very loose. I keep the knots tight.

The last mains on both sides of the racquet will feel looser then those in the middle of the racquet, no matter what you do or what kind of stringing machine you have.

Edit ....

I assumed the OP knows how to tie a proper tie off knot and how to cinch it up. Still, no matter how hard you try to cinch it up, the last main string will feel looser compared to those in the middle of the racquet.

technoob10 · 10-31-2010, 06:05 PM

you can try using a Cam action clamp and an awl, drakulie posted a video on how to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDwAnjSYcxQ

coachrick · 10-31-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by THESEXPISTOL

How do you keep the last main tight when stringing in a dropweight?

I mean.. If i'm stringing the mains at let's say 22kgs i will change the tension to 24kgs on the last two mains of each side. But even when i do that the last main is very loose. I keep the knots tight.

It's not the knot

, it's the slack between the knot and the clamp that must be addressed. The rocking/pulling motion, done very carefully, is the way to cinch the string.

I'd be WAY careful using an awl. Most grommets aren't designed to hold two strings and a sharp piece of metal

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ryanhoku · 10-31-2010, 08:34 PM

[quote=coachrick;5156447]It's not the knot

, it's the slack between the knot and the clamp that must be addressed. The rocking/pulling motion, done very carefully, is the way to cinch the string.

I agree with the above statement completely. I also used to have a problem with the final mains being rather loose until I got better at tying off the knot to cinch the string tighter. The following video really helped me out. At about the 30 second mark he shows how to cinch the knot which tightens the last main. I owe the video author a big thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Mr10sStr.../1/G_IzoGUSbmg

Rod

Irvin · 11-01-2010, 02:13 AM

The last main is going to have less tension because of two reason. First because of the drawback when the tension head is removed and second because of the untensioned string between the knot and the clamp. If you are using two piece stringing there is not much you can do about either but if you are stringing one piece there is a lot you can do. Never tie off a main string.

If you use the short side to run the top cross the mains strings will hold the clamp in place better and you will have less drawback when the tension head is removed. If you are using a drop weight you will more than likely be using floating clamps and the twisting action causes more problems. Also if you tie off the top cross you will have a shorter distance between the clamp and the knot so you will have less drawback.

To tie off the top cross it is easier if you have a starting clamp. Use the short side to run the first cross and hold it with a starting clamp on the outside of the frame. Now use the long side string to run the second cross and use the clamp that was holding the short side to clamp the second cross. Tension the top cross again and remove the starting clmap then use the clamp from the long side to hole the top cross. Tie off the top cross and continue to string your crosses.

If you have a racket where the mains end in the throat no problem. Use an ATW pattern. String all but the two outside mains using the short side to run the second cross, and the long side to run the third cross. Make sure you skip over the grommet holes for the two outside mains. String the crosses all the way down to the outside main grommet holes. Then run the outside main up, top cross over, and outside main down. Weave the remaining crosses and tiw off.

The outside mains will always feel looser because there is nothing outside them to deflect the crosses to hold the outside mains in.

Irvin

tbuggle · 11-01-2010, 02:15 PM

also, there is only one other main next to the last main, as opposed to it
being pinched between two mains (the cross weaving makes the mains tighter).
granted it is near the edge of the frame, but isn't weaved between two mains, thus it feels looser and will move toward the frame more easily than the other strings move (mains).

i hope that made sense..

Irvin · 11-01-2010, 02:19 PM

That is what I tried to say.

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Originally Posted by Irvin

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The outside mains will always feel looser because there is nothing outside them to deflect the crosses to hold the outside mains in...

I do not worry about the outside mains moving because I can confidently explain why they move to my customers.

Irvin

tbuggle · 11-01-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Irvin

That is what I tried to say.

I do not worry about the outside mains moving because I can confidently explain why they move to my customers.

Irvin

didn't catch that and yeah, i don't worry about it either as it's easily explainable especially in physical setting.

SoBad · 10-31-2010, 08:17 PM

Press the string against the frame with your thumb as you start the knot, to minimise slack.

Irvin · 11-02-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by THESEXPISTOL

How do you keep the last main tight when stringing in a dropweight?

I mean.. If i'm stringing the mains at let's say 22kgs i will change the tension to 24kgs on the last two mains of each side. But even when i do that the last main is very loose. I keep the knots tight.

'thesexpistol' I think some of us are confused. I assumed since you had a dropweight you had flying clamps and the twisting action causes you to lose tension on the outside main along with the normal drawback. Why are you losing tension on the outside main?

Irvin

THESEXPISTOL · 11-02-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Irvin

'thesexpistol' I think some of us are confused. I assumed since you had a dropweight you had flying clamps and the twisting action causes you to lose tension on the outside main along with the normal drawback. Why are you losing tension on the outside main?

Irvin

Hi Irvin,
My dropweight has fixed clamps. I'm increasing tension in the outside mains not losening

Irvin · 11-02-2010, 02:12 PM

^^ Then see post #7

Irvin

THESEXPISTOL · 11-02-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Irvin

^^ Then see post #7

Irvin

Thank you a lot. I will try ATW next time.

dgdawg · 11-02-2010, 04:32 PM

I didn't read all these posts, but another big reason the outside M's & X's are more loose is because there is no resistance from an opposing M or X.
THIS...is in addition to the knot tying technique and the slack in the string.

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11-01-2010, 02:13 AM	#6
Irvin Legend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Marietta, Ga Posts: 6,974	The last main is going to have less tension because of two reason. First because of the drawback when the tension head is removed and second because of the untensioned string between the knot and the clamp. If you are using two piece stringing there is not much you can do about either but if you are stringing one piece there is a lot you can do. Never tie off a main string. If you use the short side to run the top cross the mains strings will hold the clamp in place better and you will have less drawback when the tension head is removed. If you are using a drop weight you will more than likely be using floating clamps and the twisting action causes more problems. Also if you tie off the top cross you will have a shorter distance between the clamp and the knot so you will have less drawback. To tie off the top cross it is easier if you have a starting clamp. Use the short side to run the first cross and hold it with a starting clamp on the outside of the frame. Now use the long side string to run the second cross and use the clamp that was holding the short side to clamp the second cross. Tension the top cross again and remove the starting clmap then use the clamp from the long side to hole the top cross. Tie off the top cross and continue to string your crosses. If you have a racket where the mains end in the throat no problem. Use an ATW pattern. String all but the two outside mains using the short side to run the second cross, and the long side to run the third cross. Make sure you skip over the grommet holes for the two outside mains. String the crosses all the way down to the outside main grommet holes. Then run the outside main up, top cross over, and outside main down. Weave the remaining crosses and tiw off. The outside mains will always feel looser because there is nothing outside them to deflect the crosses to hold the outside mains in. Irvin __________________ Irvin - I wish Facebook would notify me when people delete me so I can 'Like it' Last edited by Irvin : 11-01-2010 at 02:57 AM.

10-31-2010, 08:17 PM	#10
SoBad Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 5,870	Press the string against the frame with your thumb as you start the knot, to minimise slack. __________________ 皆けちやんか…

11-02-2010, 02:12 PM	#13
Irvin Legend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Marietta, Ga Posts: 6,974	^^ Then see post #7 Irvin __________________ Irvin - I wish Facebook would notify me when people delete me so I can 'Like it'

11-02-2010, 04:32 PM	#15
dgdawg Professional Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 801	I didn't read all these posts, but another big reason the outside M's & X's are more loose is because there is no resistance from an opposing M or X. THIS...is in addition to the knot tying technique and the slack in the string. __________________ Blade 98 18x20 x3 - Babolat VS Team 17g @ 50lbs M's/Signum Pro Poly Plasma 17g @ 46lbs X's (5% pre stretch)-USRSA Certified Stringer-Babolat Star 5