VS Gut mains and poly crosses

[parasailing]

Based on all the great comments about the playability of this particular hybrid setup, I would like to know a good starting tension for the following setups. I usually string my PSTGT at 57lbs for a full multi stringbed and gut stringbed.

VS Gut 16 with Luxilon Alu Power 16L
VS Gut 16 with Prince Recoil 16
VS Gut 16 with WC Silverstring 17 gauge

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by parasailing

Based on all the great comments about the playability of this particular hybrid setup, I would like to know a good starting tension for the following setups. I usually string my PSTGT at 57lbs for a full multi stringbed and gut stringbed.

VS Gut with Luxilon Alu Power
VS Gut with Prince Recoil
VS Gut with WC Silverstring

Impossible to answer without knowing the gauge of the gut and Silverstring

If VSTeam 17 and Silverstring 1.20:

Vs 17 - Alu: 56 lbs - 54 lbs
Vs 17 - Recoil: 58 lbs - 56 lbs
Vs 17 - Silverstring 1.20: 57 lbs - 55 lbs

[parasailing]

Originally Posted by ClubHoUno

Impossible to answer without knowing the gauge of the gut and Silverstring

If VSTeam 17 and Silverstring 1.20:

Vs 17 - Alu: 56 lbs - 54 lbs
Vs 17 - Recoil: 58 lbs - 56 lbs
Vs 17 - Silverstring 1.20: 57 lbs - 55 lbs

ClubHoUno - thanks for reminding me about the gauge. I just updated my original post so once I get a range, I will string them up and let you guys know how they feel.

[Steve Huff]

When I used a multi, I would string it at 60. I'm using Pacific Tough Gut 16 in the mains now. I have Pacific XForce 18 in the crosses of one racket and Solinco Tour Revolution 18 in the other. I have them strung at 61/57. Even with the lower tension in the crosses, these still feel a little stiffer than the all multi. I'll probably go to 60/55 next time.

[parasailing]

Originally Posted by ClubHoUno

Impossible to answer without knowing the gauge of the gut and Silverstring

If VSTeam 17 and Silverstring 1.20:

Vs 17 - Alu: 56 lbs - 54 lbs
Vs 17 - Recoil: 58 lbs - 56 lbs
Vs 17 - Silverstring 1.20: 57 lbs - 55 lbs

Is the reason Alu is at 54lbs and Recoil at 56lbs due to the stiffer string of Alu? I will take your settings and put them in VS Gut 16 and see how things play out.

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by parasailing

Is the reason Alu is at 54lbs and Recoil at 56lbs due to the stiffer string of Alu? I will take your settings and put them in VS Gut 16 and see how things play out.

Yes !

10char

[nickarnold2000]

I've used a gut main before and IMO your average player can get away with using a better multi or syn gut as a main. If you've got all sorts of cash ok go for the gut

[parasailing]

Originally Posted by nickarnold2000

I've used a gut main before and IMO your average player can get away with using a better multi or syn gut as a main. If you've got all sorts of cash ok go for the gut

Actually I plan on also doing a multi main and poly cross but given all the great comments about playability of gut crossed with a poly, I need to find out what I have or have not been missing.

[Mig1NC]

Originally Posted by nickarnold2000

...your average player can get away with using a better multi or syn gut as a main. If you've got all sorts of cash ok go for the gut

I would disagree on the basis that your average player can get quite a lot more life out of gut than they would out of nylon since they will likely not break the string. Tension maintenance and elasticity will last significantly longer. Comfort, safety from injury and playability can last a very long time.

Unfortunately most average players don't realize the benefits of paying more up front for gut.

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by nickarnold2000

I've used a gut main before and IMO your average player can get away with using a better multi or syn gut as a main. If you've got all sorts of cash ok go for the gut

I disagree.

Nat gut will hold tension better, feel far far better, be more durable and you don't feel the poly go dead so fast, when it's only used in the crosses as much as in a full job of poly.

[J_aces]

I just got a good price on Babolat gut in 15 gauge. I know it will be more durable with a poly cross but will I still be able to get good spin even though it's in 15 gauge?

[J_aces]

How big is the spin difference between gut in 15 and 16 gauge?

[parasailing]

I have tried Tonic 15 gauge and VS Gut 16 and for me there was a difference in spin between the two gauges. They are more durable but you do give up a bit of that spin for it.

[parasailing]

My current setup is VS Team at 58lbs with WC Silverstring at 54lbs. After a three hour break in, this string plays quite nice. The natural gut mains provide the power and is soft on the arm with the WC SS providing the additional spin that was lacking in a full natural gut setup. I will provide updates on this setup as time goes on but I would like some suggestions on which cross I should consider for future test setups.

I have read about WC Scorpion and WC B5E which intrigues me but I am concern about TT members who mention that B5E should be strung in the 40s which would be a huge difference between what I am stringing my VS Team at.

[TimothyO]

Para...

I have some WC Silverstring 1.25 inbound and will hybrid with either Touch or Team.

Previously I found Team a little too springy in an open pattern. Now I have a PSLGT which is pretty dense.

Based on your experience with this hybrid so far any advice? Right now I'm thinking Team/Silverstring @ 52/48.

How's the string movement with Silverstring? Does the Team spring back nicely?

[TaihtDuhShaat]

Originally Posted by TimothyO

Para...

I have some WC Silverstring 1.25 inbound and will hybrid with either Touch or Team.

Previously I found Team a little too springy in an open pattern. Now I have a PSLGT which is pretty dense.

Based on your experience with this hybrid so far any advice? Right now I'm thinking Team/Silverstring @ 52/48.

How's the string movement with Silverstring? Does the Team spring back nicely?

I'm using a PSL with NRG 18/ silverstring 1.20 at 52.5/48.5 and the tension is perfect for this stick. I know its not gut but same concept. String movement is a non issue and the playability is just right. I liked scorpion even better as a cross.

[parasailing]

Originally Posted by TimothyO

Para...

I have some WC Silverstring 1.25 inbound and will hybrid with either Touch or Team.

Previously I found Team a little too springy in an open pattern. Now I have a PSLGT which is pretty dense.

Based on your experience with this hybrid so far any advice? Right now I'm thinking Team/Silverstring @ 52/48.

How's the string movement with Silverstring? Does the Team spring back nicely?

I went with the 17 gauge Silverstring so there might be a bit more movement than the 16 gauge you are going with. If this maintains tension, this will be the control racquet to compare for future string tests. Natural gut at 52lbs is going to be way too much power. I would suggest you up it to at least 55lbs and put SS at around 51lbs. You will probably have a longer break in period at slightly lower tenison as well.

As far as open pattern, yes it is springy but you would adjust by upping the tension to deal with that. My PSTGT is 16x20 which is pretty open and having gut at less than 58lbs is just way too much power.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by parasailing

My current setup is VS Team at 58lbs with WC Silverstring at 54lbs. After a three hour break in, this string plays quite nice. The natural gut mains provide the power and is soft on the arm with the WC SS providing the additional spin that was lacking in a full natural gut setup. I will provide updates on this setup as time goes on but I would like some suggestions on which cross I should consider for future test setups.

I have read about WC Scorpion and WC B5E which intrigues me but I am concern about TT members who mention that B5E should be strung in the 40s which would be a huge difference between what I am stringing my VS Team at.

Wow, 3 hours is a LONG break in period. What does PVAudio string his natural gut at?

[dozu]

Originally Posted by mikeler

Wow, 3 hours is a LONG break in period. What does PVAudio string his natural gut at?

Bab guts do have quite long break-in period.

and I agree with the consensus here - mid 50's seem to be the ideal range for the gut, that's where it is the most 'gut-like', without giving too much power.

[parasailing]

Originally Posted by mikeler

Wow, 3 hours is a LONG break in period. What does PVAudio string his natural gut at?

I think it's mainly the SS that gives me the longer break in period. I know if this was a full bed of VS Team, it would take me about an hour to settle in the strings compared to Pacific Tough Gut which took me about 4 hours to settle in and with that string I never did get increase durability people were mentioning. But WC SS is a crisp poly so it's not like Polystar Energy or one of the soft polys and takes a while to break in.

After the 3 hour break in period, it plays well, time will tell how long this last before the crosses go dead.