4.0 Nationals

[jl83]

4.0 Nationals coming up next week. Anyone going? Who are the favorites? Or should I say, who has the best sandbaggers?!

[jonnyjack]

Here's the team representing Norcal... http://norcaltennisdaily.com/?p=4242

[Matt H.]

my team is going.

We are representing Florida.

[jl83]

Matt - how was it? how did you and your team do?

[FloridaAG]

Originally Posted by Matt H.

my team is going.

We are representing Florida.

I know Rick and Elkin from your team

[jonnyjack]

Here are the results:

http://tennislink.usta.com/LEAGUES/M...A69&CYear=2011

[KFwinds]

Not surprised by the results. The usual suspects making it to the finals.

My team got waxed at districts by the team from Chicago that made it to Nats. They had at least 4 guys that were way out of level and one that was ridiculously way out of level. They could only muster a 1-2 record in their flight. I guess even after all the adjustments the USTA has made over the last few years, it's still comes down to how many guys that you can recruit who are willing to rate .5-1.5 below their ability in order to acheive almighty bragging rights. And a pen...

Hats off to Cal and Texas for their recruiting prowess

[dennis10is]

Originally Posted by KFwinds

Not surprised by the results. The usual suspects making it to the finals.

My team got waxed at districts by the team from Chicago that made it to Nats. They had at least 4 guys that were way out of level and one that was ridiculously way out of level. They could only muster a 1-2 record in their flight. I guess even after all the adjustments the USTA has made over the last few years, it's still comes down to how many guys that you can recruit who are willing to rate .5-1.5 below their ability in order to acheive almighty bragging rights. And a pen...

Hats off to Cal and Texas for their recruiting prowess

It is good to know that adults, middle class or higher Americans, will do what ever it takes, lying and cheating, in order to win a meaningless game. One wonders what they will stoop to for something really important.

Do you think they cheat on their taxes, or lie on their resumes, or scam somebody in a business transaction? It can't be that these nice people, with their nice cars, and clothes, and manner, would cheat?

My world is shattered.

[JLyon]

Texas was filled with a bunch of prior 4.5 Sectional level players in Texas

[HoustonHacker]

Originally Posted by JLyon

Texas was filled with a bunch of prior 4.5 Sectional level players in Texas

Quite an exaggeration. We had two players who had played at the 4.5 Sectional level and one of them (myself) did not play at Nationals this year.

Hats off to the Pacific NW.

[KFwinds]

Originally Posted by HoustonHacker

Quite an exaggeration. We had two players who had played at the 4.5 Sectional level and one of them (myself) did not play at Nationals this year.

Hats off to the Pacific NW.

But the question still, is: if these guys have previously played 4.5, what are they doing playing on a 4.0 team?

[maggmaster]

They did not get bumped so they could still play 4.0... They were playing up on the 4.5 team. That happens pretty frequently.

[JoelDali]

Originally Posted by KFwinds

But the question still, is: if these guys have previously played 4.5, what are they doing playing on a 4.0 team?

Because they shunned the Eagle and chose the dark side. Seriously though, former 4.5s playing 4.0. Thats a mega LOL.

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by JoelDali

Because they shunned the Eagle and chose the dark side. Seriously though, former 4.5s playing 4.0. Thats a mega LOL.

Same????

-Fuji

[tennismonkey]

just based on the results it sure seems like that texas team was really loaded. how are they prior 4.5 sectional players? they played up and made it to sectionals?

i know some of the guys on the northern virginia team which steamrolled through the regular season, districts and sectionals without breaking a sweat. makes me wonder what buzzsaw they ran into.

[Angle Queen]

Originally Posted by tennismonkey

i know some of the guys on the northern virginia team which steamrolled through the regular season, districts and sectionals without breaking a sweat. makes me wonder what buzzsaw they ran into.

Like you, TM, I know some of the women on the Mid-Atlantic team that similarly rolled rather easily though the same set...including their Flight at Nationals. Made it through the semis...then...ran into a HS senior at #1 singles. Still, they should/could have pulled out another win in doubles but didn't. Haven't talked to them but I'm sure it smarts to lose to a kid. Literally.

Hmmm, let's see. She played all of three times during regular season play, all at doubles. Then once each in her state tournament, at #3 doubles. Then, voila, she's a singles player at the Mid__West Sectionals and at Nationals. At Nationals, she dropped all of 14 games over 6 matches at #1 singles. Ahhh, gotta love those self-rates. But she had to, ya know. At 18, this is her first year at Adult USTA League.

shhh...she played 9.0 mixed much earlier in the year...and won all three matches.

I didn't realize, though, that USTA doesn't dynamic DQ...at Nationals. Strikes are generated...but not used. Bah. Why bother?

Here are the womens 4.0 National Championship brackets.

[goober]

Originally Posted by Angle Queen

Like you, TM, I know some of the women on the Mid-Atlantic team that similarly rolled rather easily though the same set...including their Flight at Nationals. Made it through the semis...then...ran into a HS senior at #1 singles. Still, they should/could have pulled out another win in doubles but didn't. Haven't talked to them but I'm sure it smarts to lose to a kid. Literally.

Hmmm, let's see. She played all of three times during regular season play, all at doubles. Then once each in her state tournament, at #3 doubles. Then, voila, she's a singles player at the Mid__West Sectionals and at Nationals. At Nationals, she dropped all of 14 games over 6 matches at #1 singles. Ahhh, gotta love those self-rates. But she had to, ya know. At 18, this is her first year at Adult USTA League.

shhh...she played 9.0 mixed much earlier in the year...and won all three matches.

I didn't realize, though, that USTA doesn't dynamic DQ...at Nationals. Strikes are generated...but not used. Bah. Why bother?

Here are the womens 4.0 National Championship brackets.

Not a big fan of lowering the age limit 18 several years ago. This allows high school students like this to compete in adult leagues. She is a 3 star recruit and one of the best players in her state- not a strong tennis state but she should be definitely 4.5 at a minimum. She is very likely going to play college tennis. She fits into the large gaping hole in the experienced players guidelines for junior players between 3.5 and 5.5.

[jonnyjack]

Originally Posted by Angle Queen

Like you, TM, I know some of the women on the Mid-Atlantic team that similarly rolled rather easily though the same set...including their Flight at Nationals. Made it through the semis...then...ran into a HS senior at #1 singles. Still, they should/could have pulled out another win in doubles but didn't. Haven't talked to them but I'm sure it smarts to lose to a kid. Literally.

Hmmm, let's see. She played all of three times during regular season play, all at doubles. Then once each in her state tournament, at #3 doubles. Then, voila, she's a singles player at the Mid__West Sectionals and at Nationals. At Nationals, she dropped all of 14 games over 6 matches at #1 singles. Ahhh, gotta love those self-rates. But she had to, ya know. At 18, this is her first year at Adult USTA League.

shhh...she played 9.0 mixed much earlier in the year...and won all three matches.

I didn't realize, though, that USTA doesn't dynamic DQ...at Nationals. Strikes are generated...but not used. Bah. Why bother?

Here are the womens 4.0 National Championship brackets.

I just looked up this girl you're talking about. She played someone I know at Nationals, who's a pretty solid 4.0 singles player, and destroyed her too. This is exactly why self-rates should be banned from post-season play. They wouldn't have won the whole thing without her.

Maybe I should be register again for USTA and self-rate at 2.5 and then dominate all the way through to Nationals. I know I'll face 4.0 quality players there, haha.

[jonnyjack]

Agreed, that's why I don't care about Nationals. I rather play at the right level and get competitive matches during the regular season instead of destroying everyone locally and then paying hotel/air to get destroyed by ringers at Nationals.

btw, looking through tennislink is an absolute nightmare. Why can't they use the same software that Norcal uses, haha. Do any of the other sections use their own software?

[goober]

Originally Posted by jonnyjack

btw, looking through tennislink is an absolute nightmare. Why can't they use the same software that Norcal uses, haha. Do any of the other sections use their own software?

I like norcal software too. I wish we would use it. The current software is very cumbersome and not easy to look up things. It needs to be more intuitive.