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Old 12-03-2012, 08:19 AM   #1
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Other than Laver and Rosewall, the only players that had any sort of quality results at Federer's age in their careers were Connors and Agassi.

In 2013, Federer will be 31 until August, then he turns 32.

In 1984, Connors was 31 and turned 32. That year, he went 74-14 won 5 titles in 7 finals, didn't win a slam after winning one the year before, and finished the year ranked #2. He reached a grand slam final and two semifinals.

In 2002, Agassi was 31 and turned 32. That year he went 53-12 won 5 titles (including 3 Masters Series). He reached a grand slam final, quarterfinal, and 2nd round.

I think Federer's win/loss in 2013 will be closer to Agassi's. I could see him winning 3 or 4 titles. Reaching a grand slam final seems very difficult.

What do you think Federer's 2013 will be like?
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:37 AM   #2
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I think Federer will get to the QF round at the AO, FO, Wimbledon and the US Open, ending the year at #4.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:41 AM   #3
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^^ This would be the scenario in 2014. 2013 will be better. I am quite hopeful.
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I think Federer will get to the QF round at the AO, FO, Wimbledon and the US Open, ending the year at #4.
Why only QF @ AO and USO? Not because he lost to Berdieman at QF, USO this year that's bound to happen again next year. That loss was an aberration, an outlier IMO. Fed will make SF in all GS. Whether or not he wins, that's another matter.
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Why only QF @ AO and USO? Not because he lost to Berdieman at QF, USO this year that's bound to happen again next year. That loss was an aberration, an outlier IMO. Fed will make SF in all GS. Whether or not he wins, that's another matter.
I think after every year he will lose more and more consistency. He will still be incredibly consistent, but not enough to actually win the slams anymore. Perhaps he will post SF round results for the US Open and the AO, but I can't see that for Wimbledon or the FO.
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I think after every year he will lose more and more consistency. He will still be incredibly consistent, but not enough to actually win the slams anymore. Perhaps he will post SF round results for the US Open and the AO, but I can't see that for Wimbledon or the FO.
If he can win Wimbledon this year going through Djokovic and Murray why can't you see him reaching the semi's in atleast 2013?
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If he can win Wimbledon this year going through Djokovic and Murray why can't you see him reaching the semi's in atleast 2013?
Maybe he will make the SF round at Wimbledon next year, but I believe Tsonga and other threats on grass may get the better of him.
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I think after every year he will lose more and more consistency. He will still be incredibly consistent, but not enough to actually win the slams anymore. Perhaps he will post SF round results for the US Open and the AO, but I can't see that for Wimbledon or the FO.
Cheezz, are we still talking about the same Fed who just made the WTF final barely a month ago? And who gave a good beating of Murray who was supposed to have his breakthrough year by a score of 6-2 in the 2nd set? How can you and other people see such a DRASTIC decline both physically and mentally from Fed in 2013 compared to 2012? Even on FO, probably his worst surface, he made SF in 2012, and lost to Djoker, very likely due to his previous long QF against DelPo. His new schedule was also lighter, so it's not like he's killing himself playing every single Master out there. IMO, Djoker represents the biggest thread to Fed. Murray, DelPo,Tsonga, and Berdieman (in that order) are in the second group who can give Fed some run for his money ONLY under the condition that they're ON and Fed is OFF on that given day. I have to wait to see Rafa before making any judgement. Either he's between Djoker and the 2nd group I mentioned, or below the 2nd group, based on how fast he gets back in his match-ready shape.
To me, Fed will SF in every GS. Getting through and winning the final, that's another matter. All depends on how exhausting his SF win, his serve, the identity of his opponent, etc.
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Cheezz, are we still talking about the same Fed who just made the WTF final barely a month ago? And who gave a good beating of Murray who was supposed to have his breakthrough year by a score of 6-2 in the 2nd set? How can you and other people see such a DRASTIC decline both physically and mentally from Fed in 2013 compared to 2012? Even on FO, probably his worst surface, he made SF in 2012, and lost to Djoker, very likely due to his previous long QF against DelPo. His new schedule was also lighter, so it's not like he's killing himself playing every single Master out there. IMO, Djoker represents the biggest thread to Fed. Murray, DelPo,Tsonga, and Berdieman (in that order) are in the second group who can give Fed some run for his money ONLY under the condition that they're ON and Fed is OFF on that given day. I have to wait to see Rafa before making any judgement. Either he's between Djoker and the 2nd group I mentioned, or below the 2nd group, based on how fast he gets back in his match-ready shape.
To me, Fed will SF in every GS. Getting through and winning the final, that's another matter. All depends on how exhausting his SF win, his serve, the identity of his opponent, etc.
Federer will still make deep runs in the slams, perhaps winning them (something could happen again in 2014?) but his overall consistency is starting to fade, just at a slow rate. It will come to a point where he loses in the QF stage of majors. At all of them. Might not be next year, but it's coming. Still, that's an impressive feat as nobody else, to my knowledge would have achieved that or been a lock for the QF round (at least) for years.
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I think he will retire in 2013 season
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Pessimist! Always half-empty glass, aren't you?
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Other than Laver and Rosewall, the only players that had any sort of quality results at Federer's age in their careers were Connors and Agassi.

In 2013, Federer will be 31 until August, then he turns 32.

In 1984, Connors was 31 and turned 32. That year, he went 74-14 won 5 titles in 7 finals, didn't win a slam after winning one the year before, and finished the year ranked #2. He reached a grand slam final and two semifinals.

In 2002, Agassi was 31 and turned 32. That year he went 53-12 won 5 titles (including 3 Masters Series). He reached a grand slam final, quarterfinal, and 2nd round.

I think Federer's win/loss in 2013 will be closer to Agassi's. I could see him winning 3 or 4 titles. Reaching a grand slam final seems very difficult.

What do you think Federer's 2013 will be like?
Bookies have him as 3rd favourite for AO and Wimbledon, 4th favourite for RG, USO and YE number 1. Also, he's the only top 4 member not to be odds on to win a slam in 2013.

Looks like the bookies are expecting some decline - I wouldn't be so sure.
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Bookies have him as 3rd favourite for AO and Wimbledon, 4th favourite for RG, USO and YE number 1. Also, he's the only top 4 member not to be odds on to win a slam in 2013.

Looks like the bookies are expecting some decline - I wouldn't be so sure.
Who the hell is 3rd favourite for RG??! Not Murray lol. can see him being ahead of fed at every slam except RG not that it really matters, at best its a 2 horse race.
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Who the hell is 3rd favourite for RG??! Not Murray lol. can see him being ahead of fed at every slam except RG not that it really matters, at best its a 2 horse race.
Yep. It's a bit mad, eh.
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Pretty much the same as this year, I'd imagine
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It's not looking good for Federer. If Nadal can tie Sampras this year, Nadal will have 14 (or 15) slams at the age of 27. And then Nadal can win Roland Garros for the next five years AT LEAST, taking him to 19-20 slams. All Federer will be able to do is try to retain his QF streak. Looks like a Santoro-like end for Federer... (although Santoro was more skilled than Federer)
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It's not looking good for Federer. If Nadal can tie Sampras this year, Nadal will have 14 (or 15) slams at the age of 27. And then Nadal can win Roland Garros for the next five years AT LEAST, taking him to 19-20 slams. All Federer will be able to do is try to retain his QF streak. Looks like a Santoro-like end for Federer... (although Santoro was more skilled than Federer)
Yes, just like Nadal won Roland Garros in 2009.
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Yes, just like Nadal won Roland Garros in 2009.
Yep, when his parents split. But it's unlikely they'll split again, and since Nadal has experienced the pain before, he'll have got used to it, so it will affect his play a lot less.
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It's not looking good for Federer. If Nadal can tie Sampras this year, Nadal will have 14 (or 15) slams at the age of 27. And then Nadal can win Roland Garros for the next five years AT LEAST, taking him to 19-20 slams. All Federer will be able to do is try to retain his QF streak. Looks like a Santoro-like end for Federer... (although Santoro was more skilled than Federer)
You don't think Rafa matching his best ever season on tour after being out for 6 months is a bit of a stretch? Not saying he can't do it - but I think you need to give him some time to get back in the groove.
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You don't think Rafa matching his best ever season on tour after being out for 6 months is a bit of a stretch? Not saying he can't do it - but I think you need to give him some time to get back in the groove.
Even if Nadal loses AO 2013, then Nadal has SIX months to get into his Roland Garros groove, and since Nadal's game is based on confidence, then Nadal's confidence can propel him to the remaining 3 slams, matching Sampras by at least the US Open.
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