Does Nadal's 2010 USO feel empty?

[nikdom]

He didn't have to beat Roger who won there so many times.

[smoledman]

No - because Nadal was never blocked by Federer from winning US Opens.

[dudeski]

Originally Posted by smoledman

No - because Nadal was never blocked by Federer from winning US Opens.

I am glad you finally stopped pretending being Federer's fan.

[augustobt]

Yes, it feels empty because he won against Novak 1.0 and have the weakest draw ever.

[nikdom]

Oh come on guys, as long as we are entertaining stupid threads, please support this one too. Let's aim for 10 pages.

[tusharlovesrafa]

Originally Posted by nikdom

Oh come on guys, as long as we are entertaining stupid threads, please support this one too. Let's aim for 10 pages.

No one cares about your thread anyway..

[nikdom]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

No one cares about your thread anyway..

Thanks. Now can you make a few more non sensical posts here in your awesome English? It'll really help the "discussion" we seem to be having on this forum these days.

[tusharlovesrafa]

Originally Posted by nikdom

Thanks. Now can you make a few more non sensical posts here in your awesome English? It'll really help the "discussion" we seem to be having on this forum these days.

Who cares about English on these threads.It's just about posting some meaningful facts and telling the world that Fed played in a weak era.

[nikdom]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

Who cares about English on these threads.It's just about posting some meaningful facts and telling the world that Fed played in a weak era.

Right, right. Can you please elaborate on the weak Fed era theory? Haven't heard that one before.

How can Fed era be weak when he had to play a doped up Nadal? I thought the whole point of doping was to get strong, no?

[fed_is_GOD]

Originally Posted by nikdom

Oh come on guys, as long as we are entertaining stupid threads, please support this one too. Let's aim for 10 pages.

Here's my contribution to the cause..

[Dark Magician]

Originally Posted by nikdom

He didn't have to beat Roger who won there so many times.

Neither does any other FO, coz as we have come to know Fed is a mug compared to Nadal. He is 2-8 in GS and 10-18 total which means Nadal hasnt faced anyone good enough in FO. Isnt that hollow too. (sorry couldnt resist )

[Magnus]

Absolutley. Nadal had the weakest draw to the final I've ever seen. He basically played one match and that was the final.

[Magnetite]

It would have been sweeter if he beat Fed in the final, but it wasn't an 'empty' victory.

Nadal was playing lights out tennis, and his serve was the best it's ever been.

[nikdom]

Originally Posted by Magnetite

It would have been sweeter if he beat Fed in the final, but it wasn't an 'empty' victory.

Nadal was playing lights out tennis, and his serve was the best it's ever been.

Where was that serve before and after? Nadal didn't win any of the lead up tournaments to the USO and that powerful serve disappeared just as soon as it became a factor at the USO. Nobody learns to serve bombs overnight. Even if we give credit for somehow doing that, which I did initially, how does it simply go away?

[namelessone]

Originally Posted by nikdom

Where was that serve before and after? Nadal didn't win any of the lead up tournaments to the USO and that powerful serve disappeared just as soon as it became a factor at the USO. Nobody learns to serve bombs overnight. Even if we give credit for somehow doing that, which I did initially, how does it simply go away?

You're either very forgetful or trolling.

Nadal has the "super serve" not just for USO, but for tourneys after as well, his serve helped him a lot in Tokyo as well. But the problem is that it messed up his shoulder so he reverted to his more traditional serve by AO 2011. So that serve wasn't in effect for 2 weeks but all throughout the autumn season.

Heck, there were some signs of the super serve before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1khEO9u-VbQ

In a match that he LOST, in Cincy.

Even if you believe the "Nadal doped to get that serve" theory(that is what you seem to be implying), then I ask you: Why didn't Nadal just cycle again anytime in the next 2 years to get that booming serve? Nadal never served that well again, except maybe the first set in WB 2011 final.

Heck, even resident silent ban aficionado and expert drakulie doesn't believe Nadal doped to get that serve and yet some of you do. Boggles the mind.

[nikdom]

Originally Posted by namelessone

You're either very forgetful or trolling.

Nadal has the "super serve" not just for USO, but for tourneys after as well, his serve helped him a lot in Tokyo as well. But the problem is that it messed up his shoulder so he reverted to his more traditional serve by AO 2011. So that serve wasn't in effect for 2 weeks but all throughout the autumn season.

Heck, there were some signs of the super serve before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1khEO9u-VbQ

In a match that he LOST, in Cincy.

Even if you believe the "Nadal doped to get that serve" theory(that is what you seem to be implying), then I ask you: Why didn't Nadal just cycle again anytime in the next 2 years to get that booming serve? Nadal never served that well again, except maybe the first set in WB 2011 final.

Heck, even resident silent ban aficionado and expert drakulie doesn't believe Nadal doped to get that serve and yet some of you do. Boggles the mind.

Really? where do you guys get this crap? Uncle Toni?

1 min this guy is serving bombs, next day his shoulder is messed up. One day he's running around like a rabbit, the next day he's retired because his knee's are shattered?

Gimme a break. This guy has to be the most impressive athlete since Lance Armstrong. You know how that guy did it right...

[namelessone]

Originally Posted by nikdom

Really? where do you guys get this crap? Uncle Toni?

1 min this guy is serving bombs, next day his shoulder is messed up. One day he's running around like a rabbit, the next day he's retired because his knee's are shattered?

Gimme a break. This guy has to be the most impressive athlete since Lance Armstrong. You know how that guy did it right...

You need to get your facts straight.

Not the next day but a couple of months later. Nadal had a improved serve(for most of the time, in some matches that autumn it did not click) in 2010 for USO, Bangkok,Tokio,Shangai and TMC(where he made his first final by beating guys like Murray,Roddick,Djokovic on HC indoors). In AO 2011 he dialed back on his serve from what I'd seen.

But still, let's assert that Nadal DOPED to get his serve for USO 2010 since that's what you are implying and he didn't actually have shoulder issues towards the end of the year.

It stands to reason that he would whip out the massive serve again at least ONCE since autumn 2010 but 2 YEARS(years in which Nadal reached another 5 slam finals) have passed and we haven't seen Nadal try to hit bombs again, it's still mostly his spin serve out wide with a slower speed.

Now I don't know about you but if I had the ability to get a powerful serve with the use of PED I would use as frequently as possible. And since the Federer warehouse has already established that Nadal is an all around awful person,a cheater of the highest magnitude, I don't see why he wouldn't use PED's to boost his serve as much as is humanly possible on a frequent basis.

I know I'm just bashing my head against the walls here trying to argue with a hater but just to know how off track you are again: drakulie, a fellow Nadal hater who believe that Nadal was already silently banned twice for doping, doesn't believe the super serve via PED theory. Why don't you have a talk with him about the Nadal super serve's appearance and disappearance?

[atptennis]

If Fed's 2012 Wimbledon feels hollow, then for sure Nadal's 2010 US Open feel empty. TIT for TAT:-O

[Goosehead]

im not supporting troll threads..but the del potro vs federer semi..

federer was 1-2 down in sets.

[Clarky21]

Nikdom is such a pathetic troll.