Need help starting mains.

[Bobo96]

I am new to stringing. I own a new Alpha pioneer DC plus drop weight stringer. My friends dad taught me how to string on his electric stringer.

He taught me to start the mains by pulling the first two mains together, but only clamping one, and then pulling the one that I didn't clamp again and then clamping it. It was easy on the electric, but on mine it seems nearly impossible to pull both without one slipping. I used to have to try at least 10+ times (except for the few times I got lucky).

Lately I've been getting so dang frustrated by it that I looked online for a different way to do it. I found one guy that did it by putting a clamp on one of the strings without even tensioning it. Then he just pulled the other string (the one that wasn't clamped) and continued to string one string to the left and then one to the right, without ever tensioning that one string that he originally clamped.


I tried this and it worked just fine, and was much less frustrating. I later asked a friend about it and he said that starting the mains like that could damage the frame.

Any help or video resources would be appreciated.

Btw I am currently only stringing one piece. I am going to try to learn two piece in the near future, however, as I am possibly switching to a head racquet.

[Lakers4Life]

Here is Yulitle's video on starting mains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygwsrrrj04Q

Does you drop weight have a rotational gripper or a sliding gripper?

[Bobo96]

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life

Here is Yulitle's video on starting mains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygwsrrrj04Q

Does you drop weight have a rotational gripper or a sliding gripper?

Thanks for the video, but how yulittle starts is the sameway my friends dad showed me.

My stringer has a sliding gripper.

[Lakers4Life]

You stack the strings in the gripper to get two in at the same time to set the Anchor clamp. You don't have to do it that way, but it's easier.

The other way is to clamp the untensioned string like in the video, (let say the left side) and pull the right side main. You may want to hold the clamp up to the level of the string bed while tensioning. Or else it will drop below. Once you have tension. Clamp off the right side and both clamps should have tension. Then continue like in the video.

The reason you don't want to pull directly on a clamped string without going through a grommet loop is it may slip and damage the string. Some people use a starting clamp behind the anchor clamp to keep the string from slipping.

[Bobo96]

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life

You stack the strings in the gripper to get two in at the same time to set the Anchor clamp. You don't have to do it that way, but it's easier.

The other way is to clamp the untensioned string like in the video, (let say the left side) and pull the right side main. You may want to hold the clamp up to the level of the string bed while tensioning. Or else it will drop below. Once you have tension. Clamp off the right side and both clamps should have tension. Then continue like in the video.

The reason you don't want to pull directly on a clamped string without going through a grommet loop is it may slip and damage the string. Some people use a starting clamp behind the anchor clamp to keep the string from slipping.

okay, thanks alot. So just to be clear doing it the second way like I saw in the video I was talking about won't damage the racquet, right?

Also, what exactly is an anchor clamp?

[Lakers4Life]

Originally Posted by Bobo96

okay, thanks alot. So just to be clear doing it the second way like I saw in the video I was talking about won't damage the racquet, right?

Also, what exactly is an anchor clamp?

The anchor clamp is the first clamp you set. In the video the left side at the top of the racket. The second clamp you set is the tensioned string on the right side.

[Irvin]

Do you have a starting clamp?

[Bobo96]

Originally Posted by Irvin

Do you have a starting clamp?

To be totally honest, I have no idea. I'm pretty sure I just have two fixed clamps that came with the machine. I'm not sure what a starting clamp is, so I can't really tell you.

[Lakers4Life]

Gamma Starting Clamp:

[Bobo96]

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life

Gamma Starting Clamp:

Thanks! No I don't have one.

[Bobo96]

Why/what would I need a starting clamp for?

[Lakers4Life]

Originally Posted by Bobo96

Why/what would I need a starting clamp for?

You really have to ask? There are numerous uses for a starting clamp. It's mainly used to start Crosses, but has several other uses as well. Some people use it to pull knots. I highly recommend it to any stringer that does not have one. All I can say is once you start using one, you'll reget not getting one sooner.

This link should give you an idea on how it works. http://www.eagnas.com/maxgen1/pp600.html

[Irvin]

Originally Posted by Bobo96

Why/what would I need a starting clamp for?

If you had a starting clamp you could start you mains only pulling one string.

[tbuggle]

you don't NEED one, but they are nice to start crosses, as opposed to using a starting KNOT. the clamp holds the string until you come back and pull that last (first) cross and finish it like any other tie off.

they are also nice for pulling knots tight (it's best not to tension knots with the tensioner, the DW in your case, but it is considered acceptable by many).

again, you don't need one but they sure are nice. many folks have two.

edit: Irvin will soon chime in with 20-some odd MORE reasons to have one, or two starting clamps.

[SwankPeRFection]

The DC Plus can pull two strings at one without slipping at the tensioning head. Just make sure both strings are in there. Once that's done, clamp one off and pull tension again. If for some reason, the string slips at the clamp, then you're not clamping down hard enough on the string. Tighten the clamps a bit more and try again. Do it just a bit at a time until you find the best hold while not damaging the string. It takes a little testing around, but eventually you'll find that strings are more durable than you think.

BTW, strings tend to slip when you go crazy on the weight. If you're stringing 60# worth of weight, then that's probably your problem. Either string lower or just tighten your clamps. I find that a lot of people string a lot higher than they actually need to and don't even know it.

[Bobo96]

Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection

The DC Plus can pull two strings at one without slipping at the tensioning head. Just make sure both strings are in there. Once that's done, clamp one off and pull tension again. If for some reason, the string slips at the clamp, then you're not clamping down hard enough on the string. Tighten the clamps a bit more and try again. Do it just a bit at a time until you find the best hold while not damaging the string. It takes a little testing around, but eventually you'll find that strings are more durable than you think.

BTW, strings tend to slip when you go crazy on the weight. If you're stringing 60# worth of weight, then that's probably your problem. Either string lower or just tighten your clamps. I find that a lot of people string a lot higher than they actually need to and don't even know it.

Thanks. I have no problem with the string slipping from the clamp, it's just one string slips from the tensioner a lot.

[Irvin]

Originally Posted by Bobo96

Thanks. I have no problem with the string slipping from the clamp, it's just one string slips from the tensioner a lot.

That's because you are pulling two strings. The YULitle method was designed to eliminate double pulling the two center mains when you have floating clamps.

[Bobo96]

Originally Posted by Irvin

That's because you are pulling two strings. The YULitle method was designed to eliminate double pulling the two center mains when you have floating clamps.

Okay. So is it essential that I have a starting clamp to start the mains? Or is there another way I can do it without a starting clamp, and with out having to pull two strings at once?

[Irvin]

Originally Posted by Bobo96

Okay. So is it essential that I have a starting clamp to start the mains? Or is there another way I can do it without a starting clamp, and with out having to pull two strings at once?

Sure there is you have fixed clamps so run in the two center mains and clamp one near the end where your mains start. Now comes the problem, you do not want to pull tension on the other main because the straing MAY slip through the clamp marring your clamped main but if you can put some back pressure on the clamped main it will help a lot. So pull with your hand on the clamped main while tensioning the other. If that is not practice pull tension with you hand on the clamped main and clamp it with the other fixed clamp. Now you have both clamps on the same string. Pull tension on the I clamped main and move you clamp.

[SwankPeRFection]

Originally Posted by Bobo96

Thanks. I have no problem with the string slipping from the clamp, it's just one string slips from the tensioner a lot.

No way that could happen if it's the linear head on the DC Plus. When you put both strings in the tensioner, make sure they are stacked one on top of the other so that the abrasive sids on the head grab both side of both strings. I've never had this happen.... maybe your tensioner just needs some cleaning.