How can I move down 0.5 NTRP

[usta2050]

How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?

I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?

[GMay]

I have heard that you need two season of a losing record. I know someone that used to constantly get bumped between 2.5 and 3.0. She would have a winning season at 2.5, getted bumped to 3.0 then have a losing season at 3.0 for two years before getting moved back down to 2.5.

[dizzlmcwizzl]

Originally Posted by usta2050

How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?

I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?

Depends ... I have a buddy that was a top 4.5 had his knees replaced and two discs fused. He sat out 2 years, has gone 2-12 in the three years since and is still a 4.5.

I have another buddy that was bumped to 4.5 two years ago, had a decent record of 6-8 over two years and was moved back down.

Bottom line is that getting bumped down is based on where your rating is now, who you play between now and the end of the year and how badly you lose.

There is no way to know if you will get want you want, but I suspect if there is a will you will find a way.

[goran_ace]

Originally Posted by dizzlmcwizzl

Depends ... I have a buddy that was a top 4.5 had his knees replaced and two discs fused. He sat out 2 years, has gone 2-12 in the three years since and is still a 4.5.

Didn't he file for a medical appeal? Maybe he should have just sat out one more year so his computer rating was no longer valid and then he could have self-rated all over again.

[dizzlmcwizzl]

Originally Posted by goran_ace

Didn't he file for a medical appeal? Maybe he should have just sat out one more year so his computer rating was no longer valid and then he could have self-rated all over again.

He did file for a medical appeal and was denied.

At the two year mark he played 1 match of mixed and realized he was completely out gunned and appealed. However, because he played that one match he was then told he would have to wait 3 more years to self rate ... so a total of 5 years out.

But as it turns out... he has bounced back and even though this year he was 2-6, he is really better than that record would suggest. He will do better this season I am sure.

[Cindysphinx]

I could partner with you, which ought to help.

[njsigman]

Why do you want to move down a level and why do you want to tank matches?

[wrxinsc]

Originally Posted by Cindysphinx

I could partner with you, which ought to help.

i would partner with teh sphinx any day of the week. and not to be 'bumped down.' [idle]Nudge, nudge. Wink wink. Say no more[/idle]

[JLyon]

hope someone at USTA likes you or you are on your state or Sectional Board, apparently that helps. Otherwise short of losing an arm or leg, or in one case locally putting on 25 lbs you're stuck. I have not won a match in 3 yrs and still stuck at 5.0

[OrangePower]

Originally Posted by usta2050

How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?

I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?

Throwing all your matches seems like a lot of time to waste just in order to get bumped down. There's got to be an easier way... why not just re-register using your middle name or something, and self-rate as a 3.5? That way you have some room to grow...

[gmatheis]

Try not to win more than 1 game per set or you probably wont get bumped down.

[samarai]

Like orange power's idea rue register under a new alias and u will be the greatest 3.0 who ever lived.

[usta2050]

Originally Posted by gmatheis

Try not to win more than 1 game per set or you probably wont get bumped down.

thank you all for the words of wisdom. I will try not to win more than 1 game per set.

[lostinamerica]

Originally Posted by usta2050

How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?

I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?

It matters who you lose to. Play against a team with a lot of 4.0s and lose 3&3 a few times to their 4.0s. Lose 1&1 to the 4.5s. Do it only in the spring league. Don't play combo or tri-level. Spring is the best gauge. In many sections, fall matches do not count.

You will get down.

[SwankPeRFection]

What's the matter? You don't feel good going home anymore since you can't beat up on lesser 4.0 players?

[Torres]

Originally Posted by JLyon

I have not won a match in 3 yrs and still stuck at 5.0

Assuming that you've actually been playing matches during that time, that's just ridiculous.

[nkbond]

Originally Posted by Torres

Assuming that you've actually been playing matches during that time, that's just ridiculous.

I bet you don't play usta? I played 4.5 for four years one time with no wins before getting down to 4.0. W's and L's don't factor...just set scores. And yeah it sux to be at a level where you cannot win every now and then.

[dizzlmcwizzl]

Originally Posted by Torres

Assuming that you've actually been playing matches during that time, that's just ridiculous.

Jlyon posted his name a couple of months ago. I looked him up and he is not lying about this.

However, if I remember correctly he plays in a small league and probably only plays a few matches a year.

[JLyon]

Originally Posted by dizzlmcwizzl

Jlyon posted his name a couple of months ago. I looked him up and he is not lying about this.

However, if I remember correctly he plays in a small league and probably only plays a few matches a year.

Yup small league and I refuse to tank, plus I refuse to sit out 3 years only to appeal later, kinda figure the Computer might get it right one year, but it is getting old. My game/ego is bruised and battered from all the butt kickings.

[SteveI]

Originally Posted by usta2050

How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?

I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?

Classic... USTA player. How about just playing your matches straight up and do not worry about where the computer puts you. I just do not get it!! Why play down??? I know the answer.. I just do not get it.. I know it is to win.. Why not just change your name.. and play 3.0 and go to nationals...Yikes!