does anybody see murray at no .1?

mike danny · 03-03-2013, 11:16 AM

personally i do not. even if he passes fed(which he should given the age difference) there are still nole and rafa in his way. and to be no.1 at this point he has to be consistent week in and week out and also beat rafa and nole consistently. he has not played rafa since 2011 so i just have to wait for the match-up but he has lost the last 3 matches with djokovic. so beating them consistently is out of the question. and i do not see him making every final in events like fed and nole used to do. personally i think the best he can acheive is the no.2 ranking but IMO no.1 will never happen for him

90's Clay · 03-03-2013, 11:18 AM

I could see him at #1 maybe for a short run.. But definitely nothing long term

Sid_Vicious · 03-03-2013, 11:28 AM

I think Murray has a mental block against Djokovic. I think the rivalry could get more one-sided over the next few years. He has lost a lot of close matches against Djokovic and in many of them he threw away sizeable leads (He almost did that at the USO last year too).

So, I only see Murray getting to number 1 if he starts beating Djokovic more often.

sportsfan1 · 03-03-2013, 11:34 AM

^^ exactly what he said. Not until Murray shows that he can beat Djoker consistently.

Goosehead · 03-03-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mike danny

personally i do not. even if he passes fed(which he should given the age difference) there are still nole and rafa in his way. and to be no.1 at this point he has to be consistent week in and week out and also beat rafa and nole consistently. he has not played rafa since 2011 so i just have to wait for the match-up but he has lost the last 3 matches with djokovic. so beating them consistently is out of the question. and i do not see him making every final in events like fed and nole used to do. personally i think the best he can acheive is the no.2 ranking but IMO no.1 will never happen for him

lol wut ?....dont think rafa is in the way when rafa is behind him in the rankings at no 5.

Clarky21 · 03-03-2013, 12:10 PM

As long as Cvac is still breathing, Andy is not getting to #1.

The Bawss · 03-03-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

As long as Cvac is still breathing, Andy is not getting to #1.

Novak and Nadal.

TTMR · 03-03-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

As long as Cvac is still breathing, Andy is not getting to #1.

Actually due to his superlative dominance, Cvac will be given an honourary permanent ranking of Perpetual #1 upon his retirement. The highest possible ranking an ATP professional will be able to achieve after that point is #2, in recognition of Cvac's extraordinary and unmatchable achievements.

Cup8489 · 03-03-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

As long as Cvac is still breathing, Andy is not getting to #1.

His name is Novak Djokovic.

Please stop with the inane nicknames.

sureshs · 03-03-2013, 03:10 PM

When he is using the urinal, yes

mariecon · 03-03-2013, 03:14 PM

I'm really confused as to why Murray took so much time off between the AO and IW. Wouldn't a little match play be helpful? He's going to be rusty heading into the US HC swing. He won't make it to #1 by skipping tournaments and forfeiting points that he should be defending. He just lost his 300 Dubai points from last year and he's going to lose 750 Olympics points in August. He's going to have to win Wimbledon to make up any points there. I don't see him doing anything major on clay. It's not his forte. I can't see him getting to #1 in the foreseeable future because Djoker's just too strong right now.

ktid · 03-03-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mariecon

I'm really confused as to why Murray took so much time off between the AO and IW. Wouldn't a little match play be helpful? He's going to be rusty heading into the US HC swing. He won't make it to #1 by skipping tournaments and forfeiting points that he should be defending. He just lost his 300 Dubai points from last year and he's going to lose 750 Olympics points in August. He's going to have to win Wimbledon to make up any points there. I don't see him doing anything major on clay. It's not his forte. I can't see him getting to #1 in the foreseeable future because Djoker's just too strong right now.

He's really not playing a lot this year Queen and Tokyo are the only tournaments he's playing outside the slams, 1000's and WTF

Mainad · 03-03-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mariecon

I'm really confused as to why Murray took so much time off between the AO and IW. Wouldn't a little match play be helpful? He's going to be rusty heading into the US HC swing. He won't make it to #1 by skipping tournaments and forfeiting points that he should be defending.

Officially, he gave the reason that he wants to be as fit as possible for the 2 back-to-back HC Masters where's he had such patchy results in the last 3 years. He's determined to be a bit more consistent in them than he has shown during that time. However, I too am a bit surprised he didn't defend his finalist points in Dubai. As you say, he's going to be a bit match-rusty going into IW. IMO the foot injury he picked up at the AO final was probably a bit more serious then he let on. Either that or there have been other fitness concerns. Either way, I think the real reason is that he has needed all this time off to get his physical fitness back to as near-peak condition as possible. No doubt, we'll soon see if it has worked.

fps · 03-03-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mainad

Officially, he gave the reason that he wants to be as fit as possible for the 2 back-to-back HC Masters where's he had such patchy results in the last 3 years. He's determined to be a bit more consistent in them than he has shown during that time. However, I too am a bit surprised he didn't defend his finalist points in Dubai. As you say, he's going to be a bit match-rusty going into IW. IMO the foot injury he picked up at the AO final was probably a bit more serious then he let on. Either that or there have been other fitness concerns. Either way, I think the real reason is that he has needed all this time off to get his physical fitness back to as near-peak condition as possible. No doubt, we'll soon see if it has worked.

If his foot injury is more serious than stated, kudos to him for not coming out and saying it. That's what champions do, no excuses.

Hawkeye7 · 03-03-2013, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mainad

Officially, he gave the reason that he wants to be as fit as possible for the 2 back-to-back HC Masters where's he had such patchy results in the last 3 years. He's determined to be a bit more consistent in them than he has shown during that time. However, I too am a bit surprised he didn't defend his finalist points in Dubai. As you say, he's going to be a bit match-rusty going into IW. IMO the foot injury he picked up at the AO final was probably a bit more serious then he let on. Either that or there have been other fitness concerns. Either way, I think the real reason is that he has needed all this time off to get his physical fitness back to as near-peak condition as possible. No doubt, we'll soon see if it has worked.

He announced last October that he wasn't going to play Dubai this year. The reason being that he was still suffering from jet-lag when he had to play his first match in IW. This year he wanted to make sure that he was perfectly fit for both HC Masters, because he can pick up a lot more points there than in any of the smaller tournaments.

He also said that he feels he plays his best tennis when he's had time to prepare for a tournament, therefore he did another training block with Lendl and reduced his schedule.

Someone said he had comitted to Tokyo - he hasn't. In fact, he hasn't committed to any 500 event yet.

kishnabe · 03-03-2013, 12:37 PM

Nope.....he the weakest of the 4 big guys.

Terenigma · 03-03-2013, 12:49 PM

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Nope.....he the weakest of the 4 big guys.

Not right now he isnt, Id argue he's the 2nd best player in tennis right now and his game is certainly not the weakest of the 4 either. The only thing the others have over Murray is mental focus.

If Murray had Djokovic's rediculous resilience when he's down in a match then i think he would have a real shot of being #1. Maybe even finish this year as #1 if he could win wimbledon (do'able) and retain his US open.

ktid · 03-03-2013, 12:50 PM

Not this year, Djokovic is far too dominant, but maybe eventually, 2015 I think he will

mike danny · 03-03-2013, 02:13 PM

i think when djokovic starts to slip murray will become no.1. he barely beat him at the us open with the wind so with the conditions not favouring djokovic. djokovic is for murray what nadal used to(and still is) be for federer: he simply does not go away therefore he cannot beat him. proof enough are the matches at shanghai and london. also he does not have his stamina. last year nole played 2 consecutive tough 5 setters against both andy and rafa and clinched the AO title. this year andy barely played a JUST a tough 5 setter after a very easy draw and still did not have enough left in the tank to win the final. i mean everything worked perfectly for him: an easy draw, federer not at his best and of course his amazing form which helped him beat the swiss and reach the final. if he cannot sustain that form for the most important 2 matches than no.1 is totally out of the equation for him

Paullaconte1 · 03-03-2013, 03:48 PM

Can't see it, at least any soon

03-03-2013, 11:28 AM	#3
Sid_Vicious Legend Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: A Town Called Malice Posts: 7,342	I think Murray has a mental block against Djokovic. I think the rivalry could get more one-sided over the next few years. He has lost a lot of close matches against Djokovic and in many of them he threw away sizeable leads (He almost did that at the USO last year too). So, I only see Murray getting to number 1 if he starts beating Djokovic more often. Last edited by Sid_Vicious : 03-03-2013 at 11:51 AM.

03-03-2013, 11:34 AM	#4
sportsfan1 Professional Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,168	^^ exactly what he said. Not until Murray shows that he can beat Djoker consistently. __________________ Head LM Rad MP, Wilson Blx 6.1 95 16x18 w/ RPM Blast, 4 1/2 grip.

03-03-2013, 12:10 PM	#6
Clarky21 G.O.A.T. Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 11,155	As long as Cvac is still breathing, Andy is not getting to #1. __________________ "Hopefully the Church of Fed will have mercy on my soul". - Namelessone "We are in the Fed warehouse(known as Nadal haters united)". - Namelessone

03-03-2013, 03:14 PM	#11
mariecon Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: the Great White North Posts: 1,889	I'm really confused as to why Murray took so much time off between the AO and IW. Wouldn't a little match play be helpful? He's going to be rusty heading into the US HC swing. He won't make it to #1 by skipping tournaments and forfeiting points that he should be defending. He just lost his 300 Dubai points from last year and he's going to lose 750 Olympics points in August. He's going to have to win Wimbledon to make up any points there. I don't see him doing anything major on clay. It's not his forte. I can't see him getting to #1 in the foreseeable future because Djoker's just too strong right now. __________________ (: puǝıɹɟ ʎɯ sı ʇsı˥ ǝɹouƃI

03-03-2013, 12:37 PM	#16
kishnabe G.O.A.T. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 14,728	Nope.....he the weakest of the 4 big guys. __________________ Why fight over who is G.O.A.T., when the world is just an abstract of reality~ http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/525347

03-03-2013, 03:10 PM	#10
sureshs Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 26,292	When he is using the urinal, yes