New Serves. Please rip them apart.

tpduke112 · 09-06-2006, 05:49 PM

Alright, I hit a few more serves today. Diff friend. Still didnt want to film. As you can hear, I didnt feel good about these. The last one was the only one I hit well. Anyway, give me all the feedback ya got and I will do my best to correct the stuff you say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQa9CYbljG8

Previous Serves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXaAs1NSbQM

09-06-2006, 09:53 PM

WOW! You look a lot like me except you're darker and you don't serve as well.

tpduke112 · 09-07-2006, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by wEstSidE.cAmpEr

WOW! You look a lot like me except you're darker and you don't serve as well.

lol, good advice.....

jackson vile · 09-07-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wEstSidE.cAmpEr

WOW! You look a lot like me except you're darker and you don't serve as well.

where do all these morons keep coming from

Bungalo Bill · 09-07-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jackson vile

where do all these morons keep coming from

and here I thought you were the biggest moron on this site. They must be coming from around where you live.

jackson vile · 09-07-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bungalo Bill

and here I thought you were the biggest moron on this site. They must be coming from around where you live.

Wow you are that old with kids and this is how you spend your free time?

You live a sad life LOL, and you defend somone making a coment like that, figures.

Sounds like what happend to you and keeps happening to you BB is called Karma! You got and get what you have coming to you, enjoy

siber222000 · 09-07-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jackson vile

Wow you are that old with kids and this is how you spend your free time?

You live a sad life LOL, and you defend somone making a coment like that, figures.

Sounds like what happend to you and keeps happening to you BB is called Karma! You got and get what you have coming to you, enjoy

lol.. and reason ur talkin about his life is because u have nothing to say???

come on now, lets not be childish

andyroddick's mojo · 09-06-2006, 10:03 PM

your serve looks pretty good but we can't tell if it goes in or not. You have a pretty good motion except that I think when you start your motion, you bring your racket and ball holding arm too high up to your chest, because then when you start to toss the ball you start with a bent elbow. Try and toss the ball with your arm fully extended but only releasing at the very top.

bertrevert · 09-07-2006, 03:22 AM

I'd say the ball toss should perhaps be a bit further out in front of you, not so directly above you, so that your body weight will launch you into the court and put some power into the serve. Nice clean rhythm.

tpduke112 · 09-07-2006, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bertrevert

I'd say the ball toss should perhaps be a bit further out in front of you, not so directly above you, so that your body weight will launch you into the court and put some power into the serve. Nice clean rhythm.

Alright, Ive gotta work on that. I have been told that before. On the serves that I amp up a bit, I can def. tell that I tossed it a bit more out in front. It is just hard to be as consistent. Time and practice.

HyperHorse · 09-07-2006, 05:26 AM

Your serve looks fine to me, but it just looks to me that your stance is a bit narrow, have your feet a little bit more apart...
Rock your feet more Becker style to get that weight transfer going...
Toss the ball a bit higher & more forward and just RIP IT!!!!
oh and before you start your swing, hold your racquet lower... This way the muscles/tendons in your arm wont tense up as much...

drakulie · 09-07-2006, 10:39 AM

Your serve looks good. As someone else pointed out, work on keeping your tossing arms straight. Thanks for sharing.

kevhen · 09-07-2006, 10:58 AM

The motion and all looks good.

kevhen · 09-07-2006, 12:12 PM

Go find a private room you two if you just want to flame each other. Are potatoes not doing so well in Idaho this year?

tpduke112 · 09-07-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kevhen

Go find a private room you two if you just want to flame each other. Are potatoes not doing so well in Idaho this year?

No joke, this is a thread looking for feedback on a serve....

Trinity TC · 09-07-2006, 01:47 PM

Serve is looking good. Don't be afraid to take a bigger arc on the loop in your backswing when you start tossing the ball further in to the court. It will help you maintain your smooth rhythm and will also help with body control on the more aggressive toss and serve. Also, go for a good high net clearance because you will probably get more downward bite on the ball with the forward toss.

How is the rest of your game?

tpduke112 · 09-07-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trinity TC

Serve is looking good. Don't be afraid to take a bigger arc on the loop in your backswing when you start tossing the ball further in to the court. It will help you maintain your smooth rhythm and will also help with body control on the more aggressive toss and serve. Also, go for a good high net clearance because you will probably get more downward bite on the ball with the forward toss.

How is the rest of your game?

alot better than my serve. I wish I could get groundies footage, but then there would have to be a third person there. I want to do that soon though.

Trinity TC · 09-07-2006, 02:32 PM

Groundies better than the serve? Woohoo! You've got the potential to have a real weapon with your serve...and its a lefty serve too. Generally, you can clock an extra 15-20 mph on the radar gun with a more forward toss. The biggest adjustment is getting used to the higher trajectory and net clearance.

I won't go into the physics of it but the gains in mph also mean gains in the few rotations of spin you naturally put on the ball. You get more spin effect from each rotation of the ball because the ball compresses and distorts more. Aerodynamics also change with the changes in ball speed and shape.

To sum it up...more natural speed and consistency with the forward toss. Start with a maximum of five minutes when you first start clicking with this serve. It's easy to get too pumped up and throw your arm out.

scez · 09-07-2006, 05:54 PM

nice serve, and sorry not to contribute, but I like your other videos, drinking, and still drinking

Bungalo Bill · 09-08-2006, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tpduke112

Alright, I hit a few more serves today. Diff friend. Still didnt want to film. As you can hear, I didnt feel good about these. The last one was the only one I hit well. Anyway, give me all the feedback ya got and I will do my best to correct the stuff you say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQa9CYbljG8

Previous Serves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXaAs1NSbQM

I would like to see more power coming from your lower body. I would like to see more effort coming from your upper body rotation. You are simply tapping the ball in my opinion and are not fully gathering and using your efforts and energy into the ball.

Let's talk about your toss and the movement of your head. Although you toss in front of you, on many of the serves your head moves back under the ball (at least from the camera angle I am viewing). This means you are not always hitting the ball with it in front of you. This can contribute to an arm that has to slow down as you may sometimes lose your eye contact with the ball. This also can contribute to an inconsistent serve. Some are great when you don't move so much under the ball and some are not so great when you do move under the ball.

The non-dominant arm is especially important to really help relax the shoulder region of the hitting arm - you have to trust the relaxation. The entire hitting arm/shoulder needs to be as loose as a noodle and be ready to easily and effortlessly release and come forward as the racquet is accelerating into the ball. The moment you tighten up, the fast your arm will slow down before contact. Bringing the non-dominant arm into the chest area will help accelerate and allow the shoulder to let loose and throw the racquet into the ball.

Check out Roddick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfAx...related&search=

Check out Federer's head (the best you can) when he makes contact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGAurQTPFa0

Also, the more you can incorporate your hips, legs, and feet into your serve the more you will be able to use your shoulder rotation, arm extension, and energy into the ball. Someday, you will be able to do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvC33gSTSR4

Check out Safins serve, lots of hip stretch, legs, and toe push-off. It is a very active and powerful serve from the ground up. take a close look at his arm/shoulder region. It really is propelled by his shoulder rotation and has a lot of relaxation in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT4q3...elated&search=

09-06-2006, 05:49 PM	#1
tpduke112 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 350	New Serves. Please rip them apart. Alright, I hit a few more serves today. Diff friend. Still didnt want to film. As you can hear, I didnt feel good about these. The last one was the only one I hit well. Anyway, give me all the feedback ya got and I will do my best to correct the stuff you say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQa9CYbljG8 Previous Serves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXaAs1NSbQM

09-07-2006, 10:39 AM	#12
drakulie Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: May 2004 Location: FT. Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 23,908	Your serve looks good. As someone else pointed out, work on keeping your tossing arms straight. Thanks for sharing. __________________ Head Stringer @ the LTC, Babolat Star 4 Stringer http://www.youtube.com/user/drakulie

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