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Old 02-07-2007, 08:11 PM   #81
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what part of curves dont u understand. maybe its because i live in south florida with the latinas but thats a flat butt. i know everyone loves here but shes very average looking and everyone thinks shes hot because shes a top player. seriously compare her to anna k or any famous model or actress and shes not much.
Sharapova is a very poor substitute for Anna K...what a face! What a...oh, never mind. Believe me, no one other than heycal considers Maria "callipygian" (apologies to Dedans P.).
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More along the lines of "uncool" or "square" or "geeky"
Wow, Phil. Way to describe yourself!
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Wow, Phil. Way to describe yourself!
Did you just call Phil gay?

Oh no you di'n't!

(Well, I guess heycal did upthread as well. I never knew finding Sharapova totally unappealinguninteristing meant you were gay. FINALLY someone has a clear criterion for defining sexual identities. Someone better call Kinsey and Superstition and tell them you got this figured out more concretely.)
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Dude-While she has SOME butt, that's a poor photographic representation. I know Serena Williams (in a photographic sense), and Maria S. is no Serena. She's reaching for a shot, arching her back (purrrrrrr) and the effort and position of her body has caused her to stick out her booty...you need to capture the object in question from a different angle-like directly behind her. Damn, I wish I had brought my camera to the match on Saturday...
I made an observation that her be-hind looked terrific at the AO. When people said she had no *** at all, I produced photographic evidence from the aforementioned AO showing her butt looking mighty fine. And now you want to criticize the picture as being unrepresentative of the fabulousness of her *** at the AO because she was stretching for a shot in the picture? I do and do and do for you people and it's never enough...

I agree that Maria is definitely no Serena -- Maria is about five times more attractive, AND has a better ***. (Ever heard of too much of a good thing?)

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shes very average looking and everyone thinks shes hot because shes a top player. seriously compare her to anna k or any famous model or actress and shes not much.
She is not average looking in the least. I agree that she is not as attractive as top models or movie stars, but compared to 98 percent of female athletes and the female population at large, she's definitely a hottie. If a girl who looked like she did walked into your neighborhood bar you'd splooge in your drink.

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Sharapova is a very poor substitute for Anna K...
Anna K is a bit hotter, yes. (Though even she is not as hot as the top models/movie stars.) However, Anna K's attractiveness doesn't mean that Maria's *** ain't looking fab these days and that's she an attractive girl in general.

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I never knew finding Sharapova totally unappealinguninteristing meant you were gay.
Well, now you do.

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I made an observation that her be-hind looked terrific at the AO. When people said she had no *** at all, I produced photographic evidence from the aforementioned AO showing her butt looking mighty fine. And now you want to criticize the picture as being unrepresentative of the fabulousness of her *** at the AO because she was stretching for a shot in the picture? I do and do and do for you people and it's never enough...
As somewhat of an authority in the callipygian arts, I have to say that photo was unrepresentative, and if anything, distorted MS's derriere beyond its actual, somewhat diminuative proportions.

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I agree that Maria is definitely no Serena -- Maria is about five times more attractive, AND has a better ***. (Ever heard of too much of a good thing?)
MS is maybe .85 times more attractive, facially, but below the neck, she falls BEHIND Serena by a margin of 3 to 1. I've HEARD of "too much of a good thing", but I certainly don't subscribe to such a theory-I believe it to be the sorry refrain of a jealous man who has simply never tasted the fruits of "too much".

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She is not average looking in the least. I agree that she is not as attractive as top models or movie stars, but compared to 98 percent of female athletes and the female population at large, she's definitely a hottie. If a girl who looked like she did walked into your neighborhood bar you'd splooge in your drink.
Listen, I'm better looking than 98% of professional female athletes-that's not much to write home about. I see at least two dozen women on the streets of Tokyo every day who would put MS to shame. She's ONLY a hottie because, compared to those 98% who don't even compare to ME, she's an absolute goddess. Everythings relative, bubba.

Fact is, the WTA only has a few "hot" women it can promote, so it makes the most of it...and if it succeeds in making adolescent males (and you) froth at the mouth, all the better...but the more discriminating of us KNOW who the real class of the bunch is. Not sayin' MS is NOT attractive, but she's no big deal. Did I mention that if, perchance, she DID invite me to a "Ruvu Hote-ru", I'd probably follow her like a slobbering dog...but that just isn't gonna happen until she's back in Tokyo next February.
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She is not average looking in the least. I agree that she is not as attractive as top models or movie stars, but compared to 98 percent of female athletes and the female population at large, she's definitely a hottie. If a girl who looked like she did walked into your neighborhood bar you'd splooge in your drink
shes is average looking. come to south florida and see the women here. i could find a million better looking women. she is tall and rail thin. this is attractive. no curves is not attractive at all. she has a flat butt get over it. maybe thats what you enjoy but for me i want some curve. and if she came into the bar here i would just notice how tall she is and go after the better looking girl.
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that photo was unrepresentative, and if anything, distorted MS's derriere beyond its actual, somewhat diminuative proportions
Yeah, I did get a bit lucky stumbling upon that photo, huh? But it really did help support the observation I had previously made, the Maria's tush at the AO was looking fab. True, it's "somewhat diminutive", but it's shaped extremely well lately, and this is analgous to the fact that finely shaped "B" cup breasts can often look better than "C" or "D" cups. It's not enough to have the meat; it must be shaped nicely too.

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MS is maybe .85 times more attractive, facially, but below the neck, she falls BEHIND Serena by a margin of 3 to 1.
Before I address this remark, let me reiterate that I definitely prefer a girl with curves and some flesh. My ideal body type is not Twiggy or Calista Flockhart or some emaciated model; it's more Marilyn Monroe, Sophia Loren, Ann Margaret(!), Jennifer Lopez (before she got overly fit), Kate Winslet from 'Titanic' days, vintage Jennifer Connolly before she discoverd the gym and anorexia, and so on. I HATE the way the fashion industry -- which is run by women and Top Gun watching homosexuals -- promotes thinness as the beauty ideal when it's both less attractive and causes young girls and women image problems. I've been railing about this for years.

All that being sad... Serena is thick and fat, and her body is not looking very good these days.

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I see at least two dozen women on the streets of Tokyo every day who would put MS to shame.
Yes. And you probably see hundreds more who couldn't hold Maria's bra strap. Same in New York. Our eyes pass so quickly over the teeming masses of humanity that these ordinary women don't even register while we zero in the much smaller pool of hotties and suddenly we begin to think ALL the women in Tokyo or New York or South Florida are hot. Fact is, Maria Sharapova is more attractive than 98% of the female population at large, anywhere, and if I have to fly to Tokyo to sit at an outdoor cafe with you to watch women streaming by us while counting the number of pretty and not-so pretty ones and asking you over and over as each one passes "who would you rather take to a Ruvu hote-ru, her or Sharapova?" until you finally get it, so help me God I will. Don't push me, Phil!!!

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still disagree with you but we all have are likes and dislikes in women. if you like the tall girl with a flat but and the chest of a ten year old boy then thats fine. ill take a curvy girl over that any day.
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if you like the tall girl with a flat but and the chest of a ten year old boy then thats fine. ill take a curvy girl over that any day.
We should hit the town together sometime then, Maverick66. If these two women walk into the bar, I'll take the one with the "flat butt":

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/ph...ng1_012607.jpg

And you can have the "curvy" one:

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/ap/cff2...13d3.widec.jpg

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i dont think the second one is a women. i only like girls so the second one doesnt work for me. any way thats not curves thats like a solid mound of fat. it still made me laugh though so good job.
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Old 02-08-2007, 06:07 PM   #91
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Yeah, I did get a bit lucky stumbling upon that photo, huh? But it really did help support the observation I had previously made, the Maria's tush at the AO was looking fab. True, it's "somewhat diminutive", but it's shaped extremely well lately, and this is analgous to the fact that finely shaped "B" cup breasts can often look better than "C" or "D" cups. It's not enough to have the meat; it must be shaped nicely too.
You are obviously not versed in the callipygian arts, as I am. You may also need to brush-up on your photo interpretative skills.

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Before I address this remark, let me reiterate that I definitely prefer a girl with curves and some flesh. My ideal body type is not Twiggy or Calista Flockhart or some emaciated model; it's more Marilyn Monroe, Sophia Loren, Ann Margaret(!), Jennifer Lopez (before she got overly fit), Kate Winslet from 'Titanic' days, vintage Jennifer Connolly before she discoverd the gym and anorexia, and so on. I HATE the way the fashion industry -- which is run by women and Top Gun watching homosexuals -- promotes thinness as the beauty ideal when it's both less attractive and causes young girls and women image problems. I've been railing about this for years.
Yes, very true, and I agree with your choices of "classic" beauties. When and why did models go from having hourglass figures to being built like 12 year-old boys? Maybe THAT'S the influence of the Top Gun-watching homosexual cabal at work...

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All that being sad... Serena is thick and fat, and her body is not looking very good these days.
That she is "thick" is not her fault-that's down to genetics. She is overweight now, somewhat, but that was discussed ad nauseum in another thread (which, btw, I came in on to chastize the racists-I didn't notice your name in that thread, Mr. I-too-made-a-stand...look at me!).

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Yes. And you probably see hundreds more who couldn't hold Maria's bra strap.
Does she even wear a bra? I don't think she needs to, yet.
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Same in New York. Our eyes pass so quickly over the teeming masses of humanity that these ordinary women don't even register while we zero in the much smaller pool of hotties
Nope, my eyes focus just fine, on the hotties and the plain Janes alike-like a high-speed main frame computer, I'm constantly making "calculations". Speak for yourself.

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... and suddenly we begin to think ALL the women in Tokyo or New York or South Florida are hot. Fact is, Maria Sharapova is more attractive than 98% of the female population at large
No one in his right mind thinks ALL the women of such places are hot. You're exactly the Joe Sixpack that the WTA marketing gurus are catering to-despite the fact that MS is still built like a boy, she IS tall, she IS blonde and decent looking. Put make-up and a dress on er and voila...you've just recruited to the cause 1,000's of adolescent boys and adult men who don't know any better...

in addition to millions of women in Tokyo that would put MS to shame, add Babs Schett, Ivanovic and a number of other WTA players...she isn't even the most gorgeous player in her own league.

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...and if I have to fly to Tokyo to sit at an outdoor cafe with you to watch women streaming by us while counting the number of pretty and not-so pretty ones and asking you over and over as each one passes "who would you rather take to a Ruvu hote-ru, her or Sharapova?" until you finally get it, so help me God I will. Don't push me, Phil!!!
You're always welcome here...and I know just the cafe from which we can reconnoiter the streaming hordes of female passers by. Sad thing is, I've actually DONE that before...like the overgrown adolescent that I am...
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Old 02-08-2007, 09:02 PM   #92
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can we stop saying top gun watching homosexuals seriously.
as for your arguments of sharapove being hot its over you lost shes not. phil killed you in his last post. and yes not every women is gonna be hot but then again how many fat *** men are walking around thinking htey are gods gift to women. maybe its like Shallow Hal where you seee something that the rest of us dont see.
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When and why did models go from having hourglass figures to being built like 12 year-old boys? Maybe THAT'S the influence of the Top Gun-watching homosexual cabal at work......
I truly believe it is indeed the influence of the Top Gun-loving gay mafia at work -- seriously -- and working in conjunction with insecure women who don't recognize what's truly sexy.

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That she is "thick" is not her fault-that's down to genetics. She is overweight now, somewhat, but that was discussed ad nauseum in another thread (which, btw, I came in on to chastize the racists-I didn't notice your name in that thread, Mr. I-too-made-a-stand...look at me!).
Like I care who's "fault" it is that her thighs are thicker than tree trunks? Were making evaluations of beauty here, not excuses. Plus, it ain't all genetics -- it's lack of fitness. As for this other thread that contained some racist remarks that you mentioned, I didn't enter it because I wasn't aware of it. This is different from you entering a heated discussion of racism only to remark upon the weather in Melbourne or whatever it was you posted.

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Does she even wear a bra? I don't think she needs to, yet.
Don't know. Sometimes these girls with perky young breasts don't need to.

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Nope, my eyes focus just fine, on the hotties and the plain Janes alike-like a high-speed main frame computer, I'm constantly making "calculations". Speak for yourself.... in addition to millions of women in Tokyo that would put MS to shame, add Babs Schett, Ivanovic and a number of other WTA players...she isn't even the most gorgeous player in her own league.
MILLIONS of women in Tokyo would put her to shame? You wish you lived in such a place... I'm telling you that Maria is more attractive than 98% of the general female population, and I've yet to hear an honest, believable rebuttal to this. I'm sure she would rank pretty high in your "calculations" if you weren't grading on a curve against her to to buttress your position in a debate. (I want bonus points here for using both "rebuttal" and "buttress" in the same paragraph.) There's a REASON you would follow her back to your local Ruvu hote-ru like a slobbering dog, Phil, and it ain't just cause you're hard up.

As for the some of the other girls on the tour being hotter than her, I already acknowleded that I agreed with this in a previous post. Lots of pretty girls on the tour these days (Ashley Harkleroad among them, for example.) Yet Maria is still better looking than the vast majority of her breathen, and I think the main reason Maria gets so much hype and attention is that she is the most attractive of the BEST players, and may well be the finest lookind Grand Slam winner playing today -- and among the most attractive GS winners in the entire history of the game. That's right, EVER. (Hingis is pretty cute, though, and has a great ***. But the other active Slam winners like the Williams sisters, Henin, Mauresmo, Kuznetova, Davenport, Myskina, and Clisters aren't exactly pin-up girls...)


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You're always welcome here...and I know just the cafe from which we can reconnoiter the streaming hordes of female passers by. Sad thing is, I've actually DONE that before...like the overgrown adolescent that I am...
What's sad about it? I do this in New York during the summer months roughly once a week...

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as for your arguments of sharapove being hot its over you lost shes not. phil killed you in his last post.... maybe its like Shallow Hal where you seee something that the rest of us dont see.
I think you jumped the gun there, kid -- Phil didn't exactly "kill me" in his last post; I just hadn't had a chance to respond yet and bring him (and you) crashing back down to earth.

As for me seeing something the rest of you don't see in recognizing Sharapova's attractiveness? Well, that's just silly. Part of the reason she is so famous is because millions of people recognize her good looks and agree with me. I'm hardly alone in finding her attractive. Hell, if I were, I'd be dating her right now... ("You're a dog, Maria, and I'm the only guy in the world who can bear to even look at you!")

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Wow - I can't believe you guys are still debating this topic......actually, sadly I can.

Heycal: I think you're great and I have nothing negative to say to you, but why are you pushing Phil so hard to agree with you? He has made it very clear what he is attracted to and what he is not attracted to. Everyone has their own personal tastes in what triggers them in the opposite sex. I personally, think MS is too fox-like in appearance. She has beady little eyes, thin lips and it appears she's either losing her hair or else it is very thin. In comparison with what is on the tour, yes, she is indeed attractive (I can appreciate her height, but she lacks curves of any sort which make her appear very teenage boyish), but I think it's a bit of a stretch to say she is in the top 2 percentile of females on the planet look-wise.

Mav: I don't believe the Top Gun reference is ever going to be dropped - don't let it bother you.

Phil: I really have nothin' for you. You are entitled to your opinions on females you find attractive and never offend me with your words - a gentleman through-and-through. I do hope you are choosey in your selections of motel partners though, and that not any port in a storm you would settle with. I think of you as having high taste when it comes to that sort of thing.
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Wow - I can't believe you guys are still debating this topic......actually, sadly I can.
STILL debating it? I thought we were just warming up.

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Well said.

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why are you pushing Phil so hard to agree with you? He has made it very clear what he is attracted to and what he is not attracted to. Everyone has their own personal tastes in what triggers them in the opposite sex.
I'm not pushing Phil to say he prefers Maria to Serena or anything like that, just to acknowledge that Maria is a very attractive girl in the grand scheme of things. I think when you folks say Maria is not in the top 2% of the female population in terms of looks you must be comparing her to other women in your imagination or in the media or something, and women in the media are generally more attractive. I'm talking about females in the real world -- at the supermarket, on the street, at Walmart, driving that minivan next to you on the highway, and so on.

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I personally, think MS is too fox-like in appearance. She has beady little eyes, thin lips and it appears she's either losing her hair or else it is very thin. In comparison with what is on the tour, yes, she is indeed attractive (I can appreciate her height, but she lacks curves of any sort which make her appear very teenage boyish).
Am I the only person who watched the Australian Open this year?? I mentioned above the types women I find attractive -- voluptuous sorts, all of them, and all prettier than Maria -- but I'm telling you, I thought Maria's rear end at the AO was looking unbelievably, achingly, sexy. Seriously. It drove me wild everytime I saw her -- so sue me for thinking that, call me crazy, call me immature, call me a Top Gun loving homosexual, I don't care -- but I'm just calling 'em like I see 'em. Look at the photo I posted, watch some tape of her matches. The girl had beautiful curves at the AO, and I shall go to my grave knowing this in my heart. And her hair looked pretty too, dag nabit.

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Phil: I really have nothin' for you. You are entitled to your opinions on females you find attractive and never offend me with your words - a gentleman through-and-through. I do hope you are choosey in your selections of motel partners though, and that not any port in a storm you would settle with. I think of you as having high taste when it comes to that sort of thing.
I disagree with CC here, too. I hope you are not choosy, and will most definitely take any port in a storm.
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Heycal, what can I even say, other than I am a little curiously disturbed that you were "aching" through the AO. I feel that there are more than 2% of the general population who are better looking than Maria, and I am referring to plain, old, everyday non-celebrities. I personally do not find George Clooney in the least attractive - there is absolutely nothing about him that does anything for me. I also believe that the percentile of Joes out on the street who are better looking than Clooney is higher than 2%. I personally have a particular "type" of male that grabs my attention over all others.
I am amused at the banter regarding sitting around in cafes watching the meat pass by. That made me laugh. I do agree that MS is hardly repulsive - just a certain look which would attract some, but not all men.
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I think CanadianChic and Mav are correct in that, a) I've already buried you and your teenage boy/girl loving fantasy and b) That Maria's a beady-eyed rodent (or whatever genus a fox belongs to), but...I'll humor you...just this once.

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I truly believe it is indeed the influence of the Top Gun-loving gay mafia at work -- seriously -- and working in conjunction with insecure women who don't recognize what's truly sexy.
The media doesn't help either-both the fashion rags and mainstream stuff, like Hollywood.

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Like I care who's "fault" it is that her thighs are thicker than tree trunks? Were making evaluations of beauty here, not excuses. Plus, it ain't all genetics -- it's lack of fitness. As for this other thread that contained some racist remarks that you mentioned, I didn't enter it because I wasn't aware of it. This is different from you entering a heated discussion of racism only to remark upon the weather in Melbourne or whatever it was you posted.
You didn't enter that discussion because you aren't fully committed to the idea of racial equality. Not knowing about it is just an excuse. I made my comment in "your" thread to inject some levity into it...you know what that means, right? As for Serena's excuse, it's not. She's an athlete, pure and simple-neither she nor MS are ever going to be compared to Sophia Loren, but since we're in comparison mode here, I'll take tree trunk thighs to baby twigs-MS is a 74" twig.

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Don't know. Sometimes these girls with perky young breasts don't need to.
Or with none at all, but she's an athlete, not an actress...one of these days, when she considers doing "films", she'll probably go and get the proper implants.

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MILLIONS of women in Tokyo would put her to shame? You wish you lived in such a place... I'm telling you that Maria is more attractive than 98% of the general female population, and I've yet to hear an honest, believable rebuttal to this.
Yes, millions...considering that there are about a billion and a half people living here, millions of hotties is not an unreasonable estimate. You make up numbers like this "98%" and you're asking for an "honest" rebuttal? I'm honest in telling you that MS is no big deal...she's just marketed as one, and you've SWALLOWED the marketing hype, hook, line and sinker. How's it feel to be a fish, or at least 98% fish?

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I'm sure she would rank pretty high in your "calculations" if you weren't grading on a curve against her to to buttress your position in a debate. (I want bonus points here for using both "rebuttal" and "buttress" in the same paragraph.)
But if I've already been adjudged to have killed you in this debate, I don't need to score phoney points. But I will award you a point for use of those two words in one sentence. I'm particularly impressed with your use of "buttress".

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There's a REASON you would follow her back to your local Ruvu hote-ru like a slobbering dog, Phil, and it ain't just cause you're hard up.
The reason is that I'm a slobbering dog.

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Lots of pretty girls on the tour these days (Ashley Harkleroad among them, for example.) Yet Maria is still better looking than the vast majority of her breathen, and I think the main reason Maria gets so much hype and attention is that she is the most attractive of the BEST players,
Yes, they're going to market the best player based on sex, as long as she looks even remotely female.

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and may well be the finest lookind Grand Slam winner playing today -- and among the most attractive GS winners in the entire history of the game.
Most tennis players aren't pin-ups, so the one's who come along who are GOOD (i.e. don't look more masculine than Ernest Borgnine) are tagged as the "It girls"-it's all relative...compared to most everyone else on the tour, MS is attractive enough for the likes of you and your teenage co-horts. No accounting for taste. Sorry, I just don't share your unbridled enthusiasm at this artificially-produced sex symbol. To each his own-I never cared much for other Hollywood "marketed" beauties either...which is not to say that I wouldn't follow them like a slo...oh, never mind. I may be a slobbering dog, but I don't follow the pack-just my own slobber. How's that...You're PT Barnum's wet dream-and there are 100 million of you out there!

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What's sad about it? I do this in New York during the summer months roughly once a week...
It's sad because in most cases, I'm only LOOKING.

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I think you jumped the gun there, kid -- Phil didn't exactly "kill me" in his last post;
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Did you just call Phil gay?
Not necessarily, no. :3
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Heycal, what can I even say, other than I am a little curiously disturbed that you were "aching" through the AO.
No one was happy about it. I wished she had changed into a smock or something so I could concentrate on the tennis.

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I personally do not find George Clooney in the least attractive - there is absolutely nothing about him that does anything for me. I also believe that the percentile of Joes out on the street who are better looking than Clooney is higher than 2%.
So now George "People magazine's sexiest man alive" Clooney, a man who makes millions a year primarily because of his looks, isn't attractive either and there are plenty of average Joe's more attractive? Well, you are entitled to your quirky notions of attractiveness and apparently fall into the 2% of women who think George Clooney isn't in the top 2% of men, but to have any sort of discussion here, we need to have some objective standards.... I really think you and Phil and Maverick66 have to get out of the house more and open your eyes and see what real people look like if you think Sharpapova and Clooney are ordinary looking. It's crazy talk.

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I think CanadianChic and Mav are correct in that, a) I've already buried you and your teenage boy/girl loving fantasy and b) That Maria's a beady-eyed rodent (or whatever genus a fox belongs to)....
Right, okay, me and 100 miillion other people who find MS attractive are "suckers"... Hey, any idea how I can get my hands on a beady-eyed, non-curvy, teenage boy-looking rodent like this because I'm stupid enough to buy into the hype?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fea...arapova_7.html

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since we're in comparison mode here, I'll take tree trunk thighs to baby twigs-MS is a 74" twig.
Good luck fitting them into your Japanese car.

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Or with none at all, but she's an athlete, not an actress...one of these days, when she considers doing "films", she'll probably go and get the proper implants.
It will be unnecessary. By the time she's ready for films, her breasts will look just fine considering the promise they're showing here:

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You make up numbers like this "98%" and you're asking for an "honest" rebuttal?
I didn't make up the 98% figure. It's from a study conducted by the Rand Corporation during a three week period last fall.

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How's it feel to be a fish, or at least 98% fish?
If there's a chance of me swallowing this kind of snapper in the sea, I'm quite happy being a fish:

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R.I.P. heycal.
If you're resorting to citing Maverick66's opinion to strengthen your position, you're in serious trouble... Judging by this photo along with so many others, I'd say reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated:

http://www.mimifroufrou.com/scenteds...asharapova.jpg

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Old 02-09-2007, 03:36 PM   #100
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its amazing what computers can do know. from that last photo its so airbrushed it hurts. and ive noticed no one jump on the maria is hot bandwagon in this thread. get over it u lost. its a bad feeling but it happens go find someone else to argue with and you will feel better.
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