How hard is it to become a top 250

iplaybetter · 05-18-2007, 07:39 PM

How hard is it to become a top 250 in the country for boys 14's is it winning states, how hard is it, and what would form a benchmark, as in competition performance.

Sakumo · 05-18-2007, 09:51 PM

I'd say get into the top 5 in your section or 10 depending on your section, and that would be a good benchmark. As for level of play, 14's at national level is about a 5.0 the best 14 in the nation, Emmit I think is his name, is about a lower 6.0 player.

zcj41 · 05-19-2007, 04:02 AM

God, stop using NTRP ratings for juniors already. All you have to do is play a lot of national tournaments and you'll get top 250, it's really not too difficult if you have the time and money to travel.

iplaybetter · 05-19-2007, 04:54 AM

if i don't do i just play every tournament i can.

05-19-2007, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zcj41

God, stop using NTRP ratings for juniors already. All you have to do is play a lot of national tournaments and you'll get top 250, it's really not too difficult if you have the time and money to travel.

Yea exactly I know a lot of kids that aren't very good, but just have enough money to travel around the country playing in little national events that get you a lot of points.

mJeez4293 · 05-19-2007, 08:39 AM

lv 3's especially are jokes...

Sakumo · 05-19-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by zcj41

God, stop using NTRP ratings for juniors already. All you have to do is play a lot of national tournaments and you'll get top 250, it's really not too difficult if you have the time and money to travel.

Nope, National tourneys only give you points if you win rounds. You can go to them and loose first round then loose consolations, and get no points. Eventually you might get lucky and play a sucky kid in the backdraw and get 5 points. That is enough to get you into the top 1000 in the nation.

iplaybetter · 05-19-2007, 10:03 AM

how much to do local tourneys give

Matt_MS · 05-19-2007, 10:36 AM

To your national ranking? Nothing, but play them to get your state ranking up so you can get into your division tournaments (southers, easterns, whatever) and then play nationals.

mJeez4293 · 05-19-2007, 11:14 AM

actually sectional lv 3,4,5's give national points

Sakumo · 05-19-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mJeez4293

actually sectional lv 3,4,5's give national points

And endorsements. Most levels don't from when I was playing USTA. Look for endorsements and they should say in the info if you can get nat points.

I was back in town a little bit ago for a while, and I played a dual level 5 just because I hadn't played USTA a tourney in a while and some of my buds were playing it, and I don't think it counted toward national points.

cereal · 05-19-2007, 08:06 PM

[/quote]Nope, National tourneys only give you points if you win rounds. You can go to them and loose first round then loose cancellations, and get no points. Eventually you might get lucky and play a sucky kid in the backdraw and get 5 points. That is enough to get you into the top 1000 in the nation.[/quote]

sorry had to point this out its not cancellations its is consolation

Matt_MS · 05-19-2007, 08:53 PM

Oh yeah forgot about high level sectionals, my bad.

Sakumo · 05-19-2007, 11:57 PM

sorry I was using spellcheck and rushing.

vamosrafa15 · 05-20-2007, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sakumo

I'd say get into the top 5 in your section or 10 depending on your section, and that would be a good benchmark. As for level of play, 14's at national level is about a 5.0 the best 14 in the nation, Emmit I think is his name, is about a lower 6.0 player.

its denis kudla and junior ore are 1 and 2 and they are much better than 4.0

Sakumo · 05-20-2007, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vamosrafa15

its denis kudla and junior ore are 1 and 2 and they are much better than 4.0

Obviously, I didn't say they were. Most top players in the nation are better then 5.0

rbowser · 05-22-2007, 02:38 PM

Wow. Top 14 year olds are 5.0? That's a lot better than most people I play. I'm planning on trying to enter a local, and I know setting a huge goals like nationals isn't the best, so I'll shoot for locals, then state. One question: If someone asked to play you on a certain time (random) while you were on the court, would you do it?

05-22-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by iplaybetter

How hard is it to become a top 250 in the country for boys 14's is it winning states, how hard is it, and what would form a benchmark, as in competition performance.

well...i imagine its pretty hard. We got guy in south dakota whos like 14 and he is #1 in state for high schools. freaking ripping every1s butt :\

yeah im sure they 5.0s....at least. There some real gud players i seen that are pretty young

cereal · 05-22-2007, 07:48 PM

due to my recent raging good play at Nationals I have/will move into the top 50 in the nation!! excited

and you can be number one or number one million in the nation it takes solid hard work.

Matt_MS · 05-22-2007, 07:51 PM

cereal whats your name

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cereal Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Some tennis academy is Texas Posts: 124	[/quote]Nope, National tourneys only give you points if you win rounds. You can go to them and loose first round then loose cancellations, and get no points. Eventually you might get lucky and play a sucky kid in the backdraw and get 5 points. That is enough to get you into the top 1000 in the nation.[/quote] sorry had to point this out its not cancellations its is consolation __________________ top 500 ITF Juniors...nuff said :)

05-22-2007, 07:48 PM	#19
cereal Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Some tennis academy is Texas Posts: 124	due to my recent raging good play at Nationals I have/will move into the top 50 in the nation!! excited and you can be number one or number one million in the nation it takes solid hard work. __________________ top 500 ITF Juniors...nuff said :)