Check out these old greats on vid - Page 3

Gimmick · 01-07-2008, 03:45 PM

Laver vs. Ashe 1969. Great video, I can't believe how many passing shots were hit. You would think that after losing a dozen points with S&V they would have started hanging back. Apparently there was something more to this than simply the opponent's ability to hit a passing shot.

CyBorg · 01-08-2008, 04:22 PM

Connors v Rosewall 1974 US Open: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7jkeZ0kNq8

krosero · 01-09-2008, 11:19 AM

In two parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q13_STOUBc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePo6KcGQd4M

The image gets a little better as it goes along.

krosero · 01-13-2008, 09:13 PM

In three parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NPNsU20bis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REKwsCHZtUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7OyXUa175M

Connors gives away a point at the end of the first clip.

CyBorg · 01-17-2008, 02:44 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jZmFMUGTTU

Clip from leelinus.

Moose Malloy · 01-17-2008, 03:15 PM

^thanks. love the camera angles, it really shows the players in a better light that so many of the old Wimbledon BBC matches. wish I could see the whole match.

this was the Masters where Lendl tanked his final RR match to avoid playing Borg in the semis. Looks like that was a good call.

CyBorg · 01-17-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose Malloy

this was the Masters where Lendl tanked his final RR match to avoid playing Borg in the semis. Looks like that was a good call.

LOL Lendl looks a bit more round-faced as well than in later years.

(Now he's come full circle

)

CyBorg · 01-18-2008, 07:55 PM

By Leelinus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW4z0FnUz4o

CyBorg · 01-27-2008, 09:54 AM

This guy is posting the Agassi-Medvedev match.

http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyboy2309

CyBorg · 02-20-2008, 08:57 PM

Edberg/Becker 1990 .. full match .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCwI9Z-wPc

bluetrain4 · 02-20-2008, 09:10 PM

The clips were amazing. As big of a tennis fan as I am, i really haven't watched that many old matches.

These guys are just supremely talented and so fun to watch. The Laver-Borg clip was incredible.

On to watch more.

CyBorg · 02-21-2008, 09:15 AM

Connors/Mac .. that superb 1984 US Open semi:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mm74-hwVFLM&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AqFkccYzBS4&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iC3-0YX0m8U&feature=related

CyBorg · 02-21-2008, 09:21 AM

You can upload the Ivanisevic/Rafter Wimbledon final (edited, about 20 mins per set). PM me for details or just go here: dub dub dub.tennis 4 you.com/forum/index.php?board=18.0

cadfael_tex · 02-21-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CyBorg

That's certainly the point.

If woodies were introduced again tennis would change drastically. Yes - you can hit very hard with wood. It's true. You can also serve very hard with wood.

BUT.... your accuracy suffers, which is why players hit much 'safer' in the old days and didn't hit the **** out of the ball like they do now. I don't think Sampras would be very effective with wood with the kind of state of mind that he developed when growing up with a graphite racket. We know the Wilander story - when he was defeated by Pete at the 89 US Open - how Pete won despite generally low IQ tennis (but plenty of power). Hand him a wooden racket and he'd have to get a brain transplant.

It's all fair and square. Different eras, different players. Whatever. I accept it.

But, folks, try and be fair to the players of yesteryear. They'd wipe the floor with today's players if wooden rackets were used. They possessed unparalleled touch compared to today's pros because they had to learn a different, more subtle game. It sure didn't look like something from a video game with lightning fast rallies, but it was impressive all the same.

It was art. But not everyone can recognize art. Everyone can recognize Paul Haggis. Broad and obvious. That's right - modern tennis is Paul Haggis on a golden toilet.

No, check that - modern tennis is Commando or that '300' movie .. old-age tennis is Total Recall with its subtle satire and Fascist undertones.

(I'm drunk)

Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Sampras start out with a wood racquet (when he was young). Thought that was why he had is PS's weighted up the way he did (to get them closer to the wood Pro Staffs (?) that he learned to play with).

CyBorg · 02-21-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cadfael_tex

Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Sampras start out with a wood racquet (when he was young). Thought that was why he had is PS's weighted up the way he did (to get them closer to the wood Pro Staffs (?) that he learned to play with).

Sampras said his first racquet was a woodie when he was a little kid.

Don't place too much weight on my above post - I sometimes get excitable when these debates arise. I think Sampras would be a fine player with wood, just a different one.

cadfael_tex · 02-21-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyBorg

Sampras said his first racquet was a woodie when he was a little kid.

Don't place too much weight on my above post - I sometimes get excitable when these debates arise. I think Sampras would be a fine player with wood, just a different one.

probably true. It's funny but when he first hit the scene he reminded me of the film I'd seen of Jack Kramer. Sampras was the first player I remember to have a powerful and pretty all court game. The S & V crowd that I grew up with didn't have the prettiest ground strokes (McEnroe and Edberg pop to mind).

CyBorg · 02-21-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cadfael_tex

probably true. It's funny but when he first hit the scene he reminded me of the film I'd seen of Jack Kramer. Sampras was the first player I remember to have a powerful and pretty all court game. The S & V crowd that I grew up with didn't have the prettiest ground strokes (McEnroe and Edberg pop to mind).

I myself don't find Sampras' game to be too aesthetically pleasing. Then again I prefer baseliners to servers and volleyers, so I'm hardly an expert.

I find that Pete relied on power to get him out of jams in ways that he wouldn't be able to do in past eras. Such as the way he ran around his backhand in later years. But in his peak years he was almost a perfect player, very much unlike the Sampras that Wilander faced in 1989.

Tennis old man · 03-05-2008, 04:37 PM

Thank you CyBorg for the games!!!

hoodjem · 03-26-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CyBorg

Connors/Mac .. that superb 1984 US Open semi:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iC3-0YX0m8U&feature=related

Is Connors using an early graphite version of the Pro Staff in this video?

hoodjem · 04-03-2008, 07:45 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW4z0FnUz4o&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jZmFMUGTTU

I bet Lendl was really glad when Borg retired.

01-09-2008, 11:19 AM	#43
krosero Hall Of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,648	Laver and Newcombe, 1969 Wimbledon final In two parts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q13_STOUBc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePo6KcGQd4M The image gets a little better as it goes along.

01-13-2008, 09:13 PM	#44
krosero Hall Of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,648	1975 AO final (Newcombe-Connors) In three parts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NPNsU20bis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REKwsCHZtUM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7OyXUa175M Connors gives away a point at the end of the first clip.

01-17-2008, 02:44 PM	#45
CyBorg Legend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 5,270	Borg-Lendl Masters F (eary 1981) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jZmFMUGTTU Clip from leelinus.

01-18-2008, 07:55 PM	#48
CyBorg Legend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 5,270	Lendl-Borg RG 1981 By Leelinus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW4z0FnUz4o

02-21-2008, 09:21 AM	#53
CyBorg Legend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 5,270	You can upload the Ivanisevic/Rafter Wimbledon final (edited, about 20 mins per set). PM me for details or just go here: dub dub dub.tennis 4 you.com/forum/index.php?board=18.0 Last edited by CyBorg : 02-21-2008 at 09:42 AM.