*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by OnyxZ28

My fav 630 right now is strung with toughgut 16 mains and cyberflash 17 crosses at what feels like the low 40s/high 30s. I have about 6-7 hours on this setup and the gut is notched about halfway through in the sweetspot, so I imagine it'd be almost through on an 18g gut at that time.

ahhh, the good old days of 40 lbs tension on my 200g. i dont think i could handle it that low.

[Gorecki]

Originally Posted by OnyxZ28

Grommets that TW has that will fit the PT280:

Any Prestige MP CAPS
Any Rad MP grommets, with the caveat that the Ti,i, LM, FP Rad bumpers will hang off a bit because of the thicker beam of the Radicals. The MG for some reason fits flush.

The 18x19 is definitely a misprint -- jayserinos99 and I both have Trisys 260s (same mold as the PT280) that have "16x19" printed as the string pattern. Go figure.

so, you would say it's common? any reason why this would happen? any particullar info on this misprinted batch?

[Azzurri]

Onyx, I have a LM Radical MP grommmet kit. will this fit the TT Radical? I bought the i.Radical grommets for the TT and ended up putting them on the PT 280 (fit perfect). But they look completely different, especially length.

[OnyxZ28]

They'll fit, but it'll look funky because of the ridges.

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by OnyxZ28

They'll fit, but it'll look funky because of the ridges.

OK..I will just get another i.radical grommet for the TT Radical.

I strung up the PT 280 with a full Lux M2 job (55#'s main and 52#'s cross). I will be playing tonight. Will keep you posted!

[Ross K]

Anyone got an opinion on duraflex @ 57 mains and crosses in a PT 280?

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by Ross K

Anyone got an opinion on duraflex @ 57 mains and crosses in a PT 280?

Ross, I actually cut out the Prince SG with Duraflex in my PT 280 (strung at 58#'s). The string just did not feel right. I was not able to creat spin and it seemed to have very little power (I hit too many shots into the net). I just did not like it. It could have been the tension as Onyx pinted out. I like my Gosen Sheep much better that the PSGD. I have also heard from some posters including PT 630 that the Duraflex is crap. I loved the Prince Original string from the 80's. I will be trying Forten Sweet as my next string job on the PT 280.

[l_gonzalez]

Hey guys i need a little help, i just acquired a Pro Tour 630 and it's in pretty good condition, apart from not having any grommets or bumper guard, it's just the bare frame.

I understand any Prestige MP grommets will fit the frame but where can i get hold of the bumper guard?

This might be a stupid question if the bumper guard comes with the grommets, i really don't know because i've never had to change grommets on any racquet.

Thanks for the help.

[OnyxZ28]

Originally Posted by l_gonzalez

Hey guys i need a little help, i just acquired a Pro Tour 630 and it's in pretty good condition, apart from not having any grommets or bumper guard, it's just the bare frame.

I understand any Prestige MP grommets will fit the frame but where can i get hold of the bumper guard?

This might be a stupid question if the bumper guard comes with the grommets, i really don't know because i've never had to change grommets on any racquet.

Thanks for the help.

No worries, man! Congrats on the purchase. The bumper guard is attached to the grommets, so to say. You don't have to worry about buying them separately.

[l_gonzalez]

Sweet, thanks for that. Stupid question i know...

I had three Pro Tour 630's about 5 years ago and they played sweet... i bought them off this guy at a junior tournament and one of them had a normal bumper guard on just the head of the racquet, and the other two had a Prestige-style guard all the way around the head. I never dared mess with any of them cos they played sweet and there really wasn't a noticeable difference in weight.

Then some low-life stole them from my tennis bag at another tournament 2 years ago. I had 10 racquets in the bag and he took the 3 pro tours. the dirtbag knew what he wanted.

Anyway, what is the original bumper guard for the Pro Tour 630, is it the normal head-only style, or the uber-cool all the way around the head Prestige style?

[Ross K]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

Ross, I actually cut out the Prince SG with Duraflex in my PT 280 (strung at 58#'s). The string just did not feel right. I was not able to creat spin and it seemed to have very little power (I hit too many shots into the net). I just did not like it. It could have been the tension as Onyx pinted out. I like my Gosen Sheep much better that the PSGD. I have also heard from some posters including PT 630 that the Duraflex is crap. I loved the Prince Original string from the 80's. I will be trying Forten Sweet as my next string job on the PT 280.

Very interesting. Do post up your thoughts on the Forten Sweet. And seeing as how we've started on this... anyone have a view on Head FibreGel @ 52/50 on a PT 630?

[jayserinos99]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

Has anyone played a full gut job with the 280?

I bought a 630 with Pacific gut 17 (Classic or Prime, don't recall at the moment) strung in the mid 50s. Compared to my regular setup of gut mains, Isospeed crosses, it felt a little more softer but wasn't overly powerful. If I were to do a full gut job, I normally prefer BDE Perf 17 now, so I'd go with that at 52-54 lbs.

[Azzurri]

I played the PT 280 with full Lux M2 (55 m and 52 c). The bottomline is the racquet is soft, has great feel. Other than that...nothing special. I will keep the racquet for now, but anyone that paid $600 for this racquet is an absolute moron. I have played many racquets and this racquet is not at all bad. It's solid, had good feel. But the balance and weight (for me) was not good. I actually played the TT radical for a few games last night and still liked it better. I had better pace and accuracy on both wings...but surprisingly the serve was a tad better w/PT. My Radical is strung with Gosen Sheep. But I am in the process of re-stringing the Radical with full M2 (my last pack). I think the extra spin I got from this string on my PT would do nicely on my Radical. I will say this, the PT did feel better with Lux M2 than the PSGD....I know its a poly, but it just felt better.

When I do get the Forten I will try it, but again something about the PT just does not agree with me.

Oh..almost forgot. The TT Radical is not at all like the PT 280. They feel different, swing different and are just not at all alike.

[Pleepers]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

I played the PT 280 with full Lux M2 (55 m and 52 c). The bottomline is the racquet is soft, has great feel. Other than that...nothing special. I will keep the racquet for now, but anyone that paid $600 for this racquet is an absolute moron. I have played many racquets and this racquet is not at all bad. It's solid, had good feel. But the balance and weight (for me) was not good. I actually played the TT radical for a few games last night and still liked it better. I had better pace and accuracy on both wings...but surprisingly the serve was a tad better w/PT. My Radical is strung with Gosen Sheep. But I am in the process of re-stringing the Radical with full M2 (my last pack). I think the extra spin I got from this string on my PT would do nicely on my Radical. I will say this, the PT did feel better with Lux M2 than the PSGD....I know its a poly, but it just felt better.

When I do get the Forten I will try it, but again something about the PT just does not agree with me.

Oh..almost forgot. The TT Radical is not at all like the PT 280. They feel different, swing different and are just not at all alike.

Sorry to hear. I really think the PT is an acquired taste--ussually for those who grew-up playing with it. Too many people get caught in the "hype" after reading these forums and hearing about all the pro pj frames based on these older head molds. To each his own.

[Gorecki]

Azzurri: did you get my email about those 2 PT's i told you

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by Gorecki

Azzurri: did you get my email about those 2 PT's i told you

yes..you did not get a response?

[Pro_Tour_630]

Azzuri, the PT280 you have is probably a made in china PT or an Austrian on the side. These PT's are very heavy and almost even more than 32cm, they are not for everybody and in general PT's are very finicky when it comes to setup. you can really change the balance of these frames to more HL and lower SW, if you give it more time and patience.

you can not give up on a frame with one or two setups in few weeks. that is not enough time to assess a frame. try an 18g string like NRG18g, put lead on buttcap, remove bumper, etc.... play around with it, who knows. you want instant out of the box performance and wow factor try a PC600 or even a PD.

It seems you like radicals, these Pt's are simply heavier. If you like a very maneuverable and stiffer PT's try iprestige MP's

Lastly people who pay $600 for plastic still on grip PT630 with made in austria above the grip are not going to play with it. It is more for collection purposes. If they got the cash they can pay whatever they like.

I would never buy any frame even if it was made out of diamonds for $600 if I were going to play them because they break.

[OnyxZ28]

PT630, all of my Austrian 280s have "Made in Austria" on the side -- did they ever made a PT280 with "Made in Austria" on the yoke like the PT630s and PC600?

[Gorecki]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

yes..you did not get a response?

my last one where i told you i have already them in my possesion?... no reply so far...

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

Azzuri, the PT280 you have is probably a made in china PT or an Austrian on the side. These PT's are very heavy and almost even more than 32cm, they are not for everybody and in general PT's are very finicky when it comes to setup. you can really change the balance of these frames to more HL and lower SW, if you give it more time and patience.

you can not give up on a frame with one or two setups in few weeks. that is not enough time to assess a frame. try an 18g string like NRG18g, put lead on buttcap, remove bumper, etc.... play around with it, who knows. you want instant out of the box performance and wow factor try a PC600 or even a PD.

It seems you like radicals, these Pt's are simply heavier. If you like a very maneuverable and stiffer PT's try iprestige MP's

Lastly people who pay $600 for plastic still on grip PT630 with made in austria above the grip are not going to play with it. It is more for collection purposes. If they got the cash they can pay whatever they like.

I would never buy any frame even if it was made out of diamonds for $600 if I were going to play them because they break.

Thanks for the advice PT. I appreciate it. I actually had these same thought (more time and patience). I played it again this past Sunday. I am going to put a leather grip on it for starters. Once I re-string, I will remove the headguard. I like this grommet kit because it allows you to keep the grommet strips w/out the headguard (they are seperate..the headguard only has holes for the grommets to go through..i.Radical kit). I still think its a string issue. I am not impressed with the Lux M2. I tried Polylon in my TT and it just has more bite on the ball.

This version is "Made in Austria". This is stamped on the side. This is a heavy version? Which one is the lighter version?

Yes, I meant paying $600 to play this racquet is too much money, especially if the reason you are buying it is from other people's opinions. I payed $120. I know they go for much more. I would not pay any more than that.