Madrid considering Blue Clay

[coloskier]

Originally Posted by Nadal_Freak

Blue clay finally coming true. Not just a blast at the Australian Open surface.

Yeah, the winner gets to be King Smurf for a year.

[6rump]

any picture????

[mega]

I really dont care as long as they have the ball girls they had during the indoor season

[RCizzle65]

Originally Posted by Zaragoza

For those who agree with it because it would make the ball more watchable, I guess you would also agree if Wimbledon switched to blue grass. The ball would be more watchable too.
I have a feeling those who agree with blue clay are not fans of clay tennis in the first place.

Although it may be partially true that clay is my least favorite surface, you can see the ball fine on green colors.

[Frankauc]

Originally Posted by Zaragoza

For those who agree with it because it would make the ball more watchable, I guess you would also agree if Wimbledon switched to blue grass. The ball would be more watchable too.
I have a feeling those who agree with blue clay are not fans of clay tennis in the first place.

Why? It will play the same. I'd like to see it

[Bloodshed]

Originally Posted by mega

I really dont care as long as they have the ball girls they had during the indoor season

I could not agree more. I know Djokovic noticed that 2 years ago when he was in the picture with all those ballgirls.

I'm sure that made Safin very jealous

[gj011]

Agreed with Zaragoza. Clay color should stay as is.

Blue clay is a travesty. As somebody said, what is next? Pink grass?

[Bloodshed]

Originally Posted by gj011

Agreed with Zaragoza. Clay color should stay as is.

Blue clay is a travesty. As somebody said, what is next? Pink grass?

Maybe it was the organizors way of keeping the color blue of indoor hard courts of previous years to transform it into blue clay. It might be a good or a bad idea, it remains to be seen.

[Carlo Giovanni Colussi]

Originally Posted by oscar_2424

that was mean
__________________
all we are saying is give peace a chance

Usually I post tennis quotes in that forum but for once I will talk about something else just because you've written "all we are saying is give peace a chance".
According to John Robertson who wrote the book "The art & music of John Lennon",
"Give peace a chance" wasn't such an off-the-cuff performance at Montréal (Canada) in late May and June 1, 1969, because when John returned to Great Britain
he would have asked Ringo Starr to lay out a new rhythm over the spontaneous and rather amateur backing track provided by the colored and joyful assistance in the hotel room 1742 including Thimothy Leary (whom you can see in the official video) that John "immortalized" in his song lyrics (with Dylan and others),
and John also re-recorded some little parts of his original vocals.
Once in an interview he stated that he didn't remember if it was he or Yoko or both who found the song title.
One last remark : because Lennon was still a Beatle (the group had not yet recorded his "Abbey Road" album with the main sessions between July 1 and August 20, but the first session took place on February 22 for the first recording of Lennon's "I want you (she's so heavy)) he copyrighted the song officially Lennon-McCartney though "Give peace a chance" is not a song belonging to the Beatles catalogue (but to John's as a solo artist) as the duo had ever done since 1962 (when the group published his first single "Love me do") :
whenever a member of that duo created some lyrics or a melody line even though the other one had created nothing, both names were officially credited as song's creators.
When Lennon created "Give peace a chance" in Montréal, McCartney was in Great-Britain and so Paul hadn't helped John at all for this song (in those times except on the phone you couldn't communicate, as we are doing now almost all the time via the Web or the cell phone, with someone else).
Decades later (I'm not sure but probably around the mid-90's, Yoko Ono changed the copyright of "Give peace a chance" and erased McCartney to leave Lennon alone).
Before 1962 you can find songs (not published at the time) copyrighted with only one songwriter of the duo : for instance "I Lost My Little Girl", McCartney's first creation in 1957, is copyrighted McCartney (so no Lennon officially and in reality) or "Cry for a shadow" is copyrighted Harrison/Lennon (with no McCartney).
But from 1962 to 1970 whenever one of the duo created some stuff automatically the name of the other was associated whatever he'd done.
Even in 1970 though Lennon had definitely quit the group on September 20, 1969 but agreed not to make an announcement while manager Allen Klein and the band renegotiated their recording contract ("Abbey Road" was released on 26 September 1969 in the United Kingdom, and 1 October 1969 in the United States),
Lennon's name was copyrighted with McCartney's.

Among songs officially credited Lennon-McCartney you have some where either one or the other had not add any input :
for instance Lennon put absolutely nothing in McCartney's "Yesterday" but his name is credited (it's a 95% song by Paul and about 5% by George Martin who helped Paul's for the string arrangement)
and the same can be said about Lennon's "Julia" (with some little input by Martin), apparently Paul hasn't given any idea in that love song to Lennon's mother but the song is officially credited Lennon/McCartney.

Hope I haven't annoyed you too much with this non-tennis topic.

I get back to tennis : I won't be shocked by a blue clay (but I don't like Tiriac who had been a true crook when he faced the USA in the Davis Cup final 1972).

[featherlight]

i like the idea and i would be very unqiue like in rotterdam the ABN AMRO touney the court is orange and green the same color as its sponser

[jimbo333]

I say beware of Blue Clay, it just doesn't sound right

Like yellow snow!!!

[Cyan]

Pink grass.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by coloskier

Yeah, the winner gets to be King Smurf for a year.

Then it has to be Novak!

[OJ ROD]

Originally Posted by gj011

I thought AO is played on blue clay.

Come on man.

[Leublu tennis]

Originally Posted by Zaragoza

Clay is a natural surface, changing the colour of a natural surface is an aberration. It would be a shame if all the great job and effort they put into this tournament ended up on this. I can't believe Santana supports this idea, there are better ways to make a tournament more notorious. They're attention seekers.

And what is its natural color? So far we have heard about green and red. I played on red and have never seen green. Are there other natural clay colors? And are you sure that those colors are not simply manufactured from yet another color, such as grey?

[OJ ROD]

Originally Posted by paulorenzo

truee. you remind me of ernest hemmingway.

Why? Please, you have my full atention. Seriously.

[Leublu tennis]

Originally Posted by l_gonzalez

not a fan of the idea. Clay is red and that's the way it should stay. Tiriac should change sponsors instead. Ferrari F1 team is red and they've never had trouble finding sponsors with matching colours.

Wait a sec. I thought there was also green clay in use in the states.

[T1000]

Originally Posted by Leonidas

Again and Again. people trying to justify why Nadal won the AO. If the AO is so slow, why didn´t any clay-courter make it to the semi or quarters? why did tsonga make it to the finals in 2008? Stop those posts please

Do you watch tennis or are you another nadal fanboy? Nadal won it. he's a claycourter. Verdasco got to the semis, he's a clay courter. JMDP got to the quarters. he's a clay courter. any other absurd claims you want to make while we're at it?

[T1000]

Originally Posted by Leublu tennis

Wait a sec. I thought there was also green clay in use in the states.

There is har tru

[Nadal_Freak]

Originally Posted by T1000

Do you watch tennis or are you another nadal fanboy? Nadal won it. he's a claycourter. Verdasco got to the semis, he's a clay courter. JMDP got to the quarters. he's a clay courter. any other absurd claims you want to make while we're at it?

Verdasco and Del Potro are best suited to hardcourts.