Do you think djokovic will ever be number 1? - Page 2

zagor · 06-17-2009, 04:56 AM

I don't seeing it happening that soon,he needs to sort some things out mentally and improve his fitness but I do think it will happen some time in the future.I don't expect him to dominate of course but I think he'll get to number one even if it is for a short while.

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Originally Posted by FlamEnemY

Grinder?

He sure is playing like one recently,needs to go back to being agressive and blasting that FH again.

zagor · 06-17-2009, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem

Yes, why not? If Kafelnikov, Moya or Rafter were able to do it, there's no reason why a talented player like Djoko couldn't.

They didn't have someone as consistant as Nadal the same age as them like Novak has but yeah I think he'll do it as well.Will be tough with Murray and Nadal but I think he'll get there sometimes in the future.

batz · 06-17-2009, 04:58 AM

Novak has a shot at number 1 in the post Roger era - much will depnd on Rafa's longevity as well. He has the talent, if someone could just give him his mojo back.

deltox · 06-17-2009, 05:01 AM

he has the potential, the rest is mental and physical training for him.

FlamEnemY · 06-17-2009, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zagor

He sure is playing like one recently,needs to go back to being agressive and blasting that FH again.

I agree, but as you said, grinding isn't his style - not even close. At his best I'd describe his game as "controlled aggression". He likes hitting winners and painting lines with powerful strokes, not playing like a pusher.

veroniquem · 06-17-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by zagor

They didn't have someone as consistant as Nadal the same age as them like Novak has but yeah I think he'll do it as well.Will be tough with Murray and Nadal but I think he'll get there sometimes in the future.

He's younger than Nadal and SO FAR he's done better in slams than Murray and better on clay as well. I'm not saying it's a given he will ever be #1 but he definitely has a chance.

thalivest · 06-17-2009, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by veroniquem

He's younger than Nadal and SO FAR he's done better in slams than Murray and better on clay as well. I'm not saying it's a given he will ever be #1 but he definitely has a chance.

HE is only a year younger than Nadal. That is hardly anything. The only surface he seems to still be better than Murray on this point is on clay, Murray has probably surpassed him on all other surfaces now. While Murray is improving fast, Djokovic is stagnating or regressing, then coming up for a bit, then having a bad loss and losing some confidence, a cycle like that. Overall Murray is pulling away from him at the moment though. As for doing better in slams, Murray has had a better result than Djokovic in 3 of the last 4 slams. Then there is someone like Del Potro who is coming up fast and if Djokovic doesnt turn things around could easily be surpassed by him too. That isnt to mention all the many younger players who we either know of but are not up there (eg- Gulbis, Cilic, Nishokori) who might or might not make it someday, plus players who are noted juniors now (Tomic) or who we know almost nothing about now but some who will arrive as top tenners in the future.

To answer the thread question no I dont think Djokovic will ever be ranked #1. I think #3 could easily turn out to be his career highest ranking.

zagor · 06-17-2009, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FlamEnemY

I agree, but as you said, grinding isn't his style - not even close. At his best I'd describe his game as "controlled aggression". He likes hitting winners and painting lines with powerful strokes, not playing like a pusher.

I think conrolled aggression is an excellent way to describe Novak's game.However this is not the first time I see him playing like grinder,that mostly happens when he's low on confidence.

lambielspins · 06-17-2009, 05:23 AM

He could have been #1 easily at some point during the late 90s and early 2000s. The weak transition period time in mens tennis when Sampras was on decline, Agassi was in and out as usual, and generation next was on the horizon other than the very beatable Hewitt in the early 2000s. However I dont think he will ever get to #1 now as we are already entered into and will continue in a very strong time for mens tennis. Roger will be around several more points and I think the closest Djokovic will ever come to him in the rankings during that time was last year. Nadal will never be surpassed by Djokovic in the rankings until he really begins to slow with age (could happen at 25 or so but that is still over a couple years away). Murray seems to be more a late bloomer type than Djokovic, it is possible now that he is already ranked over Djokovic that he always will be in the future. That isnt even counting Del Potro and many other potential big future champions.

Djokovic could have been #1 in 1998-2002 and probably would have won a bunch of slam titles during this weak period. The period he is coming up in though, no, he is not good enough to ever reach #1 amongst the current field and what he will face in coming years.

CountryHillbilly · 06-17-2009, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lambielspins

That isnt even counting Del Potro and many other potential big future champions.

Djokovic could have been #1 in 1998-2002 and probably would have won a bunch of slam titles during this weak period. The period he is coming up in though, no, he is not good enough to ever reach #1 amongst the current field and what he will face in coming years.

Everyone is talking about great future stars that will be too good for Djokovic. I understand Murray, since he's been beating Djokovic recently, although he doesn't exist on clay. But who else?

Del Potro has improved a lot, but he hasn't shown that much yet. He beat Nadal once and Murray once on clay, and pushed Fed to 5 sets at FO, but apart from that he's been owned by all top 4 consistently.

Others like Cilic and Gulbis are a year younger than Djoko and are far less accomplished than Djoko was this time last year.

Others like Nishikori are too young to discuss seriously.

Djokovic may improve his form later on, Del Potro may settle down. Anything can happen, but posters have already concluded that Djokovic will stay where he is and others will zip past him. That reminds one of how Djokovic was hyped as being way better than Nadal and Fed last year.

Lsmkenpo · 06-17-2009, 06:48 AM

No, he will never be #2, let alone #1.

clayman2000 · 06-17-2009, 06:55 AM

Sadly, as long as Rafa and Roger are playing like this, the 1 and 2 spots will be almost a lock

Streaky players dont become no 1.

kanamit · 06-17-2009, 09:17 AM

I think he stands an excellent chance of being ranked number one. Still I don't see it happening for at least another eighteen months. To be honest, his game needs maturing and Nadal and Fed both need to drop their play.

bolo · 06-17-2009, 09:21 AM

Not at his current level. Realistically I don't see him being no. 1 without going bigger on his serve. Is an easy top 5 for a long time as long as he wants it imo.

maximo · 06-17-2009, 09:22 AM

Murray will be # 1 in the near future.

malakas · 06-17-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by maximo

Murray will be # 1 in the near future.

hey maximo have you bought Murray's autobiography?

How many?

Cesc Fabregas · 06-17-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bolo

Not at his current level. Realistically I don't see him being no. 1 without going bigger on his serve. Is an easy top 5 for a long time as long as he wants it imo.

He could do with going bigger on the first serve but his second serve is the best out of the top 4 imo.

bolo · 06-17-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cesc Fabregas

He could do with going bigger on the first serve but his second serve is the best out of the top 4 imo.

yeah his 2nd serve is great, he has that great power/spin combo that sampras had (ofcourse at a lower level). I haven't seen him play much recently but last year he seemed like he was only going big on his first serve when he was behind. I don't think he can expect to dominate either murray or nadal off the ground at this point (except murray on clay).

vtmike · 06-17-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by maximo

Murray will be # 1 in the near future.

Hes already # 1 in Britian...

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