kirbster123 - has been unresponsive after I sent out my racket

[kirbster123]

Originally Posted by David Fong

In Kirby's behalf, I have trade several rackets with him and he has come through each time. The communication isn't always there, but I have always received the racket. (often times shipping has taken awhile) I hope all works out for you.

Thank you David for vouching for me. Before this transaction, I had several good references from other people aside from the problem that happened with Azzuri.

[at182]

honestly though kirby, it's now been three weeks since you "resent" your racket and I still haven't seen it, you claim that your racket was lost the first time around, you didn't reply until i sent you a threatening email after we agreed to the trade - even though you were active on these forums during that period.

and now it's not until people start tarnishing your reputation that you make a show....

Put yourself in my shoes mate, what do you think, would you feel shafted?

[Tennis2001]

Originally Posted by kirbster123

Thank you David for vouching for me. Before this transaction, I had several good references from other people aside from the problem that happened with Azzuri.

I didn't read through all these threads, i don't need to and i don't want to. Few things I can see clearly:
1. One user id often have arguments with many people, that person is somehow abnormal. Kirbster, you can check and find out who.
2. A few user id's look very familiar, appear very often in this grey zone, i call them "a small group" or "minority group". Those few people normally protect each other and together aggressively attack another person who is not familiar in the small group. They really want to break down that person who even have a long good history and never had even ONE bad feedback before.
3. I don't know your true story, whether you are right or wrong. I just want to tell you that BE on your own and DON'T be affected by those people in the small group.
4. I don't really know who you are, you believe me or not, i don't care, but that is what I clearly see.
5. The worst thing is they made conclusions while they only based on one-side info. This zone should be for reference ONLY, not for judgement. Otherwise it becomes a court without justice since it is always controlled by "a small group".

[Tennis2001]

Originally Posted by at182

honestly though kirby, it's now been three weeks since you "resent" your racket and I still haven't seen it, you claim that your racket was lost the first time around, you didn't reply until i sent you a threatening email after we agreed to the trade - even though you were active on these forums during that period.

and now it's not until people start tarnishing your reputation that you make a show....

Put yourself in my shoes mate, what do you think, would you feel shafted?

. What at182 said is right? If so, then you should apologize and compensate him and move on. I will deal with you again. If it's not true, then speak up.
. I am not a member of the small group.

[at182]

Originally Posted by Tennis2001

I didn't read through all these threads, i don't need to and i don't want to. Few things I can see clearly:
1. One user id often have arguments with many people, that person is somehow abnormal. Kirbster, you can check and find out who.
2. A few user id's look very familiar, appear very often in this grey zone, i call them "a small group" or "minority group". Those few people normally protect each other and together aggressively attack another person who is not familiar in the small group. They really want to break down that person who even have a long good history and never had even ONE bad feedback before.
3. I don't know your true story, whether you are right or wrong. I just want to tell you that BE on your own and DON'T be affected by those people in the small group.
4. I don't really know who you are, you believe me or not, i don't care, but that is what I clearly see.
5. The worst thing is they made conclusions while they only based on one-side info. This zone should be for reference ONLY, not for judgement. Otherwise it becomes a court without justice since it is always controlled by "a small group".

and to you tennis2001, the facts have been presented as they happened, and people here are just putting forth their opinions based on what they know, I do just want to have this resolved and not go to any extreme measure like speaking to his coach... and this is the forum where kirby has the right to say something if he has been misrepresented in anyway - from my point of view and based on the circumstances he's not been honest and i've lied to..

[Tennis2001]

Originally Posted by at182

and to you tennis2001, the facts have been presented as they happened, and people here are just putting forth their opinions based on what they know, I do just want to have this resolved and not go to any extreme measure like speaking to his coach... and this is the forum where kirby has the right to say something if he has been misrepresented in anyway - from my point of view and based on the circumstances he's not been honest and i've lied to..

Have you read my last response? If you're right, then he should apologize and compensate you. Is this not what you want?

[Kot_Bigemot]

Originally Posted by Tennis2001

I didn't read through all these threads, i don't need to and i don't want to. Few things I can see clearly:
1. One user id often have arguments with many people, that person is somehow abnormal. Kirbster, you can check and find out who.
2. A few user id's look very familiar, appear very often in this grey zone, i call them "a small group" or "minority group". Those few people normally protect each other and together aggressively attack another person who is not familiar in the small group. They really want to break down that person who even have a long good history and never had even ONE bad feedback before.
3. I don't know your true story, whether you are right or wrong. I just want to tell you that BE on your own and DON'T be affected by those people in the small group.
4. I don't really know who you are, you believe me or not, i don't care, but that is what I clearly see.
5. The worst thing is they made conclusions while they only based on one-side info. This zone should be for reference ONLY, not for judgement. Otherwise it becomes a court without justice since it is always controlled by "a small group".

Here we go again - conspiracy theory. A "small group of people" trying to take over TW.
LMFAO

[Bud]

Originally Posted by Kot_Bigemot

Here we go again - conspiracy theory. A "small group of people" trying to take over TW.
LMFAO

There are a group of us who care about transactions here at TT... that they are carried out responsibly and in a timely manner.

[Bud]

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[Bud]

Originally Posted by kirbster123

The Post office contacted me because I am a small business owner, and save on a plan called Venture One. Anytime I ship something, it is logged on my account. When the product didnt arrive to its destination, they have contact info. If I did not have Venture One, then yes, there would be no one to contact.

I don't believe you.

So, prove me wrong and post the original tracking number here and the correspondence you received from the PO. If you have some special business plan... you should be able to track the package from origin to delivery.

Where was the package lost? Where are the insurance forms for your compensation from the Post Office?

Originally Posted by at182

honestly though kirby, it's now been three weeks since you "resent" your racket and I still haven't seen it, you claim that your racket was lost the first time around, you didn't reply until i sent you a threatening email after we agreed to the trade - even though you were active on these forums during that period.

and now it's not until people start tarnishing your reputation that you make a show....

Put yourself in my shoes mate, what do you think, would you feel shafted?

Kirby, why has his replacement racquet taken 3 weeks to arrive... which, BTW, hasn't even happened?

You should have overnighted him the racquet (with tracking!) for all the trouble he's gone through waiting for you to deliver on your trade.

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by kirbster123

At our first deal, I cut the string into 18ft halves as you said. I also made another mistake on the address, which i misspelled. I do apologize, but it still did arrive and still worked fine in your racquet. Im not saying that this is okay, but I apologized and even offered to pay you for the string. When I asked to trade string again, I offered to send the string first, but you did not reply.

Really? I have an email from you stating it was YOUR mistake. I never asked for 18ft. You have no business on this boards if you are going to treat others this way. Why don't you provide tracking from the ORIGINAL shipment you scumbag? You won't because you don't have it.

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by Tennis2001

I didn't read through all these threads, i don't need to and i don't want to. Few things I can see clearly:
1. One user id often have arguments with many people, that person is somehow abnormal. Kirbster, you can check and find out who.
2. A few user id's look very familiar, appear very often in this grey zone, i call them "a small group" or "minority group". Those few people normally protect each other and together aggressively attack another person who is not familiar in the small group. They really want to break down that person who even have a long good history and never had even ONE bad feedback before.
3. I don't know your true story, whether you are right or wrong. I just want to tell you that BE on your own and DON'T be affected by those people in the small group.
4. I don't really know who you are, you believe me or not, i don't care, but that is what I clearly see.
5. The worst thing is they made conclusions while they only based on one-side info. This zone should be for reference ONLY, not for judgement. Otherwise it becomes a court without justice since it is always controlled by "a small group".

1. you are clueless
2. you are very clueless
3. you are very, very clueless
4. you are very, very, very clueless
5. you are very, very, very, very clueless

[Kot_Bigemot]

Originally Posted by kirbster123

The Post office contacted me because I am a small business owner, and save on a plan called Venture One. Anytime I ship something, it is logged on my account. When the product didnt arrive to its destination, they have contact info. If I did not have Venture One, then yes, there would be no one to contact.

I say - back to original plan.
1. Contact his coach and University
2. Contact admins of TT and ask them to ban him from doing business here.
Unless tracking info is provided.
Also, i own 2 businesses and also have a full time job. Any package that i send through my business accounts is being tracked automatically and tracking is available as soon as it is logged to USPS system. Also, all packages are automatically insured up to $100.
And besides, where is the package? Are you telling me that Canadian postal service lost 2 packages in a row??? COME ON! What are odds of that happening? Or do you think you are the only smart one here?
I wanted to think that you are a good person and just made a mistake by being irresponsible but, after reading your replies.....Man.....It is just so pathetic.
I mean, think about it - you are putting your good name and reputation on the line over lousy $100(or less)??? Is this what your good name is worth to you?
I give you my word, that , IF, only IF, God forbid, something like that ever happened and i was in your place, i swear, i would pay the guy double the money just to protect my name and reputation.
But, that is me. Different people have different values in life. To me, my name and reputation is worth more than money. To some, their good name is worth just lousy $100.
PATHETIC and SAD.

[Tennis2001]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

1. you are clueless
2. you are very clueless
3. you are very, very clueless
4. you are very, very, very clueless
5. you are very, very, very, very clueless

. I am happy people read my post thoroughly this time.
. Back to case with Harry, you made a lot of firm conclusions after getting info from Harry, but none from me. This is called one-side judgement. A judge can't do the right job if he/she doesn't listen to both sides. I've never said Harry was right or wrong, it wasn't the purpose of my post. Listenning to one-side evidences then made the conclusions, that meant that you assumed Harry was right and I am wrong from beginning. Otherwise you at least asked me if Harry's statement was correct before you came up with some conclusions. That was what i called "a court without justices"

[kirbster123]

Originally Posted by Kot_Bigemot

I say - back to original plan.
1. Contact his coach and University
2. Contact admins of TT and ask them to ban him from doing business here.
Unless tracking info is provided.
Also, i own 2 businesses and also have a full time job. Any package that i send through my business accounts is being tracked automatically and tracking is available as soon as it is logged to USPS system. Also, all packages are automatically insured up to $100.
And besides, where is the package? Are you telling me that Canadian postal service lost 2 packages in a row??? COME ON! What are odds of that happening? Or do you think you are the only smart one here?
I wanted to think that you are a good person and just made a mistake by being irresponsible but, after reading your replies.....Man.....It is just so pathetic.
I mean, think about it - you are putting your good name and reputation on the line over lousy $100(or less)??? Is this what your good name is worth to you?
I give you my word, that , IF, only IF, God forbid, something like that ever happened and i was in your place, i swear, i would pay the guy double the money just to protect my name and reputation.
But, that is me. Different people have different values in life. To me, my name and reputation is worth more than money. To some, their good name is worth just lousy $100.
PATHETIC and SAD.

Canada Post did not offer tracking with the method that I chose. Express shipping was the only choice with tracking, but was extremely expensive. I have already lost one racquet, and it looks like I have lost 2 racquets, which is a very unlikely situation. I am still willing to pay Andrew back for his loss. After I sent the 2nd racquet, no communincation was done on his part to say if he had or had not received the racquet. If he had simply sent me an e-mail saying he has not received his racquet, I would have gladly sent him the money. It makes no sense for me to make up these stories of me sending racquets that are getting lost in shipment, and in the end for me pay for the racquet.

[BigApple]

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[Tennis2001]

Originally Posted by kirbster123

Canada Post did not offer tracking with the method that I chose. Express shipping was the only choice with tracking, but was extremely expensive. I have already lost one racquet, and it looks like I have lost 2 racquets, which is a very unlikely situation. I am still willing to pay Andrew back for his loss. After I sent the 2nd racquet, no communincation was done on his part to say if he had or had not received the racquet. If he had simply sent me an e-mail saying he has not received his racquet, I would have gladly sent him the money. It makes no sense for me to make up these stories of me sending racquets that are getting lost in shipment, and in the end for me pay for the racquet.

On the oversea tracking matter ONLY, I agree with kirster123. I did shipped few times oversea without tracking for saving-money purpose. One happened horribly. I took me 6 wks or more. I have to refund since i couldn't prove i shipped. 2 days later, the buyer received the racket and refund back. If the buyer say never got the racket, i hell know. Those who don't know about this, should come to usps and ask. Attention folks! Don't assume things from your OWN knowledge and come up with conclusions.

[at182]

As I said earlier it's now been three weeks since you ‘resent’ another racket and I still haven't seen it

here are the facts

- I sent you 3 emails to follow up whether you sent your racket with no reply (yet you were definitely online active on these forums during that time)
- I sent you a threatening email and started this thread finally there was a response saying you were busy and the rackets been sent
- You were not able to provide a tracking number or copy of a receipt
- I get an email from you telling me you’ve received my racket, and somehow the post office called you regarding a package that that is not tracked saying it’s been lost and you’ve sent another one exactly the same condition
- Again no tracking provided
- 3 weeks after that still no racket..

and again I stress it's not until people start tarnishing your reputation that you make a show...

what do you suggest is fair outcome to this?

[Tennis2001]

Originally Posted by at182

As I said earlier it's now been three weeks since you ‘resent’ another racket and I still haven't seen it

here are the facts

- I sent you 3 emails to follow up whether you sent your racket with no reply (yet you were definitely online active on these forums during that time)
- I sent you a threatening email and started this thread finally there was a response saying you were busy and the rackets been sent
- You were not able to provide a tracking number or copy of a receipt
- I get an email from you telling me you’ve received my racket, and somehow the post office called you regarding a package that that is not tracked saying it’s been lost and you’ve sent another one exactly the same condition
- Again no tracking provided
- 3 weeks after that still no racket..

and again I stress it's not until people start tarnishing your reputation that you make a show...

what do you suggest is fair outcome to this?

. Kirbster123, you don't have tracking, it is your fault as I did. You should refund by now. Late if at182 get the racket, he will refund and keep the racket or just return the racket. It is my opinion and it was my own experience. The only difference is i communicated very often so the buyer always felt secure.

[Fearsome Forehand]

Originally Posted by kirbster123

I just saw this thread and was very surprised. I did not see this earlier and Andrew if there was a problem, you should have talked to me first. The post office told me that the racquet was lost in shipment. Having said that, I sent another racquet in the same condition. I followed up with you to tell you that you should receive it next week. Yet, you did not send me an email if there was a problem. I still dont know if you have received the racquet. If you havent, I can send back your kblade or paypal you the money, but you should have emailed me first if there was a problem. I don't go through looking at the references very often and luckily I found this one.

Originally Posted by kirbster123

Canada Post did not offer tracking with the method that I chose. Express shipping was the only choice with tracking, but was extremely expensive. I have already lost one racquet, and it looks like I have lost 2 racquets, which is a very unlikely situation. I am still willing to pay Andrew back for his loss. After I sent the 2nd racquet, no communincation was done on his part to say if he had or had not received the racquet. If he had simply sent me an e-mail saying he has not received his racquet, I would have gladly sent him the money. It makes no sense for me to make up these stories of me sending racquets that are getting lost in shipment, and in the end for me pay for the racquet.

Our fiend Kirby claims that Canada Post called him to tell him the parcel was lost. (No doubt a first in the history of a national postal service.) When asked to provide a tracking number for the shipment(s), Kirby responded that tracking was not available for the level of service he selected. (That latter claim seems to be true. I took a look at the Canada Post website and services with tracking are very expensive on international shipments.)

However, how would the Canada Post be able to determine a parcel is lost if there in no tracking number, and therefore, no way to trace the parcel's status? Do they have clairvoyant postal workers on staff to monitor untraceable parcels up there in Canada? Do these psychic postman somehow envision that a parcel is marooned on a deserted Pacific isle and then immediately dial up the sender of the tracking-less shipment to inform him of his parcel's sad end? I never before realized the incredible level of service the Canadian Postal Service provides to our dear neighbors to the North. I am mightily impressed, indeed.

To at182: Based on the terrible communication, the lack of tracking numbers, or receipts, for shipments real, or imagined, and Kirby's prior dealings here (e.g., with Azurri), I regret to inform you that, in all probability, you've been scammed, mate. And although it seems more likely than not that Kirby didn't actually ship anything, we still hold out a shred of hope that Kirby, as is his pattern, blew off shipping the racket for several weeks, then finally did ship it at some point and it is merely a little tardy in arriving in Oz. But, frankly, it isn't looking so good and I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling that you are ever going to receive the racket.

Perhaps, if you contact the Division of Clairvoyant Parcel Locators of the Canadian Postal Service, they can telepathically provide you with the GPS coordinates of your lost racket. Or, maybe, they will call you if you summon them with your thoughts.

The public flogging Kirby Mendes has taken via this thread has, at least, enticed him to finally respond to you in some fashion. I hope he is swift enough to see the value in sending you a paypal payment to reimburse you for the racket (plus shipping) that you sent him in trade for the now much discussed racket of unknown whereabouts. By doing so, he could remove some of the tarnish that clings to his name at present. (Lest he become a permanent inductee in the TW Classifieds Rogues Gallery inhabited by the likes of Charles Nyugen, Trevor Neumann, et al.)