You vs Federer!

[Tennis_Monk]

Originally Posted by <3tennis!!!

sorry, but you will not win a few points 'here and there'. if you haven't yet, go see fed live. then you'll know what your up against. completely different world to watching on t.v

Thats your opinion. I disagree.

And just dont assume stuff. I know enough about Federer and how great he is and his game is. Been fortunate enough to watch a few pro's very very closely for a few weeks(and i may get another chance next year). I still stick to what i said earlier.

[Conquistador]

Its the great Roger Federer. No one beats Federer on his A game. No one now--no one ever.

[President of Serve/Volley]

Originally Posted by Conquistador

Its the great Roger Federer. No one beats Federer on his A game. No one now--no one ever.

Maybe Chuck Norris can.

[President of Serve/Volley]

Originally Posted by Conquistador

Its the great Roger Federer. No one beats Federer on his A game. No one now--no one ever.

Seriously, I believe only one man can stop an A game Federer.... Marat Safin?

[Conquistador]

Originally Posted by President of Serve/Volley

Seriously, I believe only one man can stop an A game Federer.... Marat Safin?

No, even Federer has beaten the wall. He's bigger than the game.

[JeMar]

Nadal and Safin have both taken down Federer at the top of his game.

Safin did it at the Aussie Open, Nadal did it in Rome.

[Yenster]

I would probally get one point, off a lucky mishit on the top of my frame which produces a wicked spin that curls back towards my side. =]

[pug]

1 set - 24 points - I win 0.
2 sets - 48 points - I maybe win 1 point with luck, pure luck.
3 sets - 72 points - I am feeling good about my 1 out of 72 chances by pulling out all the stops within the rules of the game or RF making a mistake. Last time I checked he is still human, no?

[Raid]

Originally Posted by HoVa

i've beaten federer a couple of times already..

heres a pic to prove it:

you are footfaulting

[hankash]

Maybe I could get 1 point if I used dead tennis balls...and did not tell him before hand.

[nikdom]

I watched Roger up close from behind the baseline at the USO in '06. He was supposed to play in Arthur Ashe but got moved to Armstrong because of delays. He was playing Spadea. I had spent all day that day watching tennis on the outer courts, just marveling at the level of play - I saw Gasquet, Robredo and a bunch of others and the consistency with which they hit absolute monster balls with accuracy was amazing. Gasquet was literally off his feet 2 ft in the air on every single shot. I even saw Nadal and Safin warm up for their match later that day. Nadal was chewing up this solid Asian kid who tried his mightiest to hit with power and Nadal was yo-yoing him like a rag doll.

So back to Roger. Here I was after watching all these top pros just blowing my mind. But Roger was different. Even the sound emanating from his racquet was unlike any other player. It was soft "thunk" compared to the harder sounds of others. He moves like a frikkin cat on the court. Now that you can tell even watching on TV.

What was most amazing to me watching him from behind the baseline was (and this perspective is completely different from watching on TV, where everything looks 'flattened' out) EVERY single groundstroke he hit looked like it was going to land out. He had all sorts of spin on the ball, side-spin, top spin, under spin and the occasional flat groundstroke.

Spadea valiantly tried to serve and volley, come into the net on Roger's second serves, but Roger was like warming up against him. He seemed as relaxed and sure as the player's I had seen practicing earlier in the day. BTW those serves are extremely hard to read. The times he served from my end, I watched with a hawk eye to see if I could tell where he would go and had 0% success predicting correctly. Again, it wasn't the hardest serve I had seen all day but perhaps the most relaxed and accurate.

So coming back to the original question here, I'm a 4.5 player who's been playing for a long time. I know many of you here are weekend warriors like me or worse. If Roger handles a pro like he's toying with them, and the pros can manhandle top college players, who would put any of us to shame, then Roger is many many orders of leagues above us. Don't fool yourself. Go watch the pros play.

[ttbrowne]

You would not even be able to get your racket ON a return unless Roger let you. I hit with the #1 Div 1 college player and didn't touch a serve when he was hitting for serious. It's not how it looks on TV. Forget it.

[bruceree]

maybe a chance, if i keep learning how to jump higher

[NamRanger]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

Oh, Federer would definitely double-bagel me. But I think I can still win a few points here or there.

Here's how I would do it:

1. Kamikaze serving and volleying - I would go for my biggest serve on every serve, 1st or 2nd, and if it goes in, I would rush the net and just guess to one side or the other. Sooner or later, I'll guess right a few times and either smack a volley into the open court or hit a drop volley.

2. Go for broke on every return - assuming that he has to hit a 2nd serve now and then, I would just go for a crushing winner into the corner on every return I can get my racquet on. I concede that I would never get my racquet on any of his first serves.

3. Aim for the netcord - if I get into a baseline rally with him, I'd aim for the netcord on every shot hoping that one ball would clip the netcord and dribble over for a free point.

4. Lots of drop shots - if I get the opportunity, I'll go for tons of drop shots. One will likely work sooner or later.

5. Try to shank the ball on purpose off my frame - one may just drop in for a winner and surprise Federer.

6. Hope for double-faults - yes, even Federer will double-fault now and then, especially if he's bored and loses concentration.

7. The "Michael Chang serve" - Yes, after blasting every one of my serves for several games, I'll surprise him with a puny underhand drop shot serve. It just might catch him off-guard and get me a free point.

Potentially 3 points at most.



I think I might win one point if I could get into one rally throughout the entire match. Hit alot of moon balls to the backhand and he might just get careless.

[Knightmace]

Originally Posted by nikdom

I watched Roger up close from behind the baseline at the USO in '06. He was supposed to play in Arthur Ashe but got moved to Armstrong because of delays. He was playing Spadea. I had spent all day that day watching tennis on the outer courts, just marveling at the level of play - I saw Gasquet, Robredo and a bunch of others and the consistency with which they hit absolute monster balls with accuracy was amazing. Gasquet was literally off his feet 2 ft in the air on every single shot. I even saw Nadal and Safin warm up for their match later that day. Nadal was chewing up this solid Asian kid who tried his mightiest to hit with power and Nadal was yo-yoing him like a rag doll.

So back to Roger. Here I was after watching all these top pros just blowing my mind. But Roger was different. Even the sound emanating from his racquet was unlike any other player. It was soft "thunk" compared to the harder sounds of others. He moves like a frikkin cat on the court. Now that you can tell even watching on TV.

What was most amazing to me watching him from behind the baseline was (and this perspective is completely different from watching on TV, where everything looks 'flattened' out) EVERY single groundstroke he hit looked like it was going to land out. He had all sorts of spin on the ball, side-spin, top spin, under spin and the occasional flat groundstroke.

Spadea valiantly tried to serve and volley, come into the net on Roger's second serves, but Roger was like warming up against him. He seemed as relaxed and sure as the player's I had seen practicing earlier in the day. BTW those serves are extremely hard to read. The times he served from my end, I watched with a hawk eye to see if I could tell where he would go and had 0% success predicting correctly. Again, it wasn't the hardest serve I had seen all day but perhaps the most relaxed and accurate.

So coming back to the original question here, I'm a 4.5 player who's been playing for a long time. I know many of you here are weekend warriors like me or worse. If Roger handles a pro like he's toying with them, and the pros can manhandle top college players, who would put any of us to shame, then Roger is many many orders of leagues above us. Don't fool yourself. Go watch the pros play.

Nice post

most people don't really know how good the pros are. I reckon the 800th in the world would still double bagel a 5.5

[edberg505]

Originally Posted by Knightmace

Nice post

most people don't really know how good the pros are. I reckon the 800th in the world would still double bagel a 5.5

Not hardly!

[Knightmace]

maybe not hardly but stil beat them