Chopin's Masterpiece Collection: Fed v. Mac - Page 2

Chopin · 10-17-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrence

You should have made it a public poll so we could see who voted for JM.

Good point. Nice signature. Vintage stuff from one of the so-called "experts" around here.

Chopin · 10-17-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

8-7 in favor of Mac right now.

The cognoscenti are still in the majority, but yes, soon the unwashed hoi polloi will trample. . .

. . . and burn the Library at Alexandria, led by the demagogue Chopin.

I do like this post with the Ancient Greek references. I want to give you a lot of credit for this post. I'm considering making you my next Gold Star Poster of the Week.

borg number one · 10-17-2009, 10:01 PM

Chopin, we touched on this topic in another thread of course. I did notice that you used the premise "on hard courts" vs. "the US Open". New York would provide a big advantage for McEnroe in my opinion.

I terms of "winning usually on hard courts", I would still give the edge to McEnroe, but by the slimmest of margins, perhaps 6 out of 10 matches. I think Federer would have a tough time with his return games against the McEnroe serve and volley. Then, he would face an ever-charging McEnroe at the net as often as possible, during his service games. Plus, McEnroe's lefty serve to his backhand would also produce a lot of free points and make him difficult to break. Having said that, Federer's more complete game would lead to several wins on hard courts against a "prime" McEnroe, and make such a series quite close, in my opinion.

abmk · 10-17-2009, 10:37 PM

fed slight edge on deco, decisive edge on rebound ace /slow-medium HC

abmk · 10-17-2009, 10:40 PM

quite a few have mentioned here and in the other thread fed would find it difficult to handle mac serve ( and S&V in general) . He wouldn't have it easy , agreed.

How about looking at the other side ? How would mac handle fed's serve ? how would he break fed ? Baseline games are not on the same level and chip and charging isn't really going to work that well against a passer of fed's calibre who can hit passing shots from anywhere in the court

zagor · 10-17-2009, 10:56 PM

At their peaks I'd call them equal on decoturf,would give Fed the edge on slow/medium HC,clay and modern grass,Mac the edge on old grass and carpet.

hoodjem · 10-18-2009, 05:17 AM

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Chopin · 10-18-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

You're never at a loss for self-congratulations or self-aggrandizement.

(Sounds like an extreme compensation complex.)

Do you actually take all my posts at face-value?

P.S. Thanks for bumping my threads. Keep posting!

borg number one · 10-20-2009, 06:04 AM

Both McEnroe and Federer have had shall we say "their moments", when things aren't going their way in a match. McEnroe gets a lot of flak for his behavior (entirely warranted), but Federer seems to get off pretty unscathed by the public, though he is usually very calm in comparison to McEnroe and many others (Nastase, Connors, Tarango, and even Roddick).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxAPKtOe0fQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aDy1v8YpzU&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H28N8npm3H4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koTTY3QuLcQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2GUp...om=PL&index=19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTCG7UT0J_Y

Chopin · 10-20-2009, 01:14 PM

21-13. Wow. This is turning into a blowout.

View Poll Results: Fed V Mac?
Fed	23	57.50%
Mac	17	42.50%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

10-17-2009, 10:01 PM	#23
borg number one Legend Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,041	Chopin, we touched on this topic in another thread of course. I did notice that you used the premise "on hard courts" vs. "the US Open". New York would provide a big advantage for McEnroe in my opinion. I terms of "winning usually on hard courts", I would still give the edge to McEnroe, but by the slimmest of margins, perhaps 6 out of 10 matches. I think Federer would have a tough time with his return games against the McEnroe serve and volley. Then, he would face an ever-charging McEnroe at the net as often as possible, during his service games. Plus, McEnroe's lefty serve to his backhand would also produce a lot of free points and make him difficult to break. Having said that, Federer's more complete game would lead to several wins on hard courts against a "prime" McEnroe, and make such a series quite close, in my opinion. __________________ Borg never pointed to himself. He never even seemed to care if anyone read the advertisements. — Tom Callahan

10-17-2009, 10:56 PM	#26
zagor Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Weak era Posts: 24,491	At their peaks I'd call them equal on decoturf,would give Fed the edge on slow/medium HC,clay and modern grass,Mac the edge on old grass and carpet. __________________ "If Federer played during the 90s he would have reached 3-6 ranking and would have won 2 slams max (no more than Rafter) - Sabratha, big Fed "fan".

10-18-2009, 05:17 AM	#27
hoodjem Legend Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bierlandt Posts: 9,957	.......................................... __________________ The smart man thinks he knows a lot; the wise man is aware that he knows little. Last edited by hoodjem : 10-18-2009 at 01:44 PM.

10-20-2009, 06:04 AM	#29
borg number one Legend Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,041	Both McEnroe and Federer have had shall we say "their moments", when things aren't going their way in a match. McEnroe gets a lot of flak for his behavior (entirely warranted), but Federer seems to get off pretty unscathed by the public, though he is usually very calm in comparison to McEnroe and many others (Nastase, Connors, Tarango, and even Roddick). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxAPKtOe0fQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aDy1v8YpzU&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H28N8npm3H4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koTTY3QuLcQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2GUp...om=PL&index=19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTCG7UT0J_Y __________________ Borg never pointed to himself. He never even seemed to care if anyone read the advertisements. — Tom Callahan

10-20-2009, 01:14 PM	#30
Chopin Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St. John, USVI Posts: 3,685	21-13. Wow. This is turning into a blowout. __________________ New Poll: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=463382