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[5263]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

Do you guys even know what my point is? Did I even say it yet?

my comment is clearly a question.

[AlpineCadet]

Originally Posted by 5263

you think these photos prove your point?? The only difference in these and the Q one is probably swing plane.

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

Do you guys even know what my point is? Did I even say it yet?

right......

[Bud]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

This isn't even a close comparison to the Querrey pic

[Bud]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

I guess the camera men just aren't quick enough.

Again, none of your pics show the same scenario as the Querrey pic. Nice try, though.

[AlpineCadet]

Impossible to tell since the camera man wasn't quick enough to get the ball while it was still on the strings/frame. Same for Sam's pic. Without a vid, a pic is worth all your little words--and everyone else's. Verdasco's/Murray's pics come pretty close, but you get the idea, don't you?

[Bud]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

Impossible to tell since the camera man wasn't quick enough to get the ball while it was still on the strings/frame. Same for Sam's pic. Without a vid, a pic is worth all your little words--and everyone else's. Verdasco's/Murray's pics come pretty close, but you get the idea, don't you?

No. Querrey's racquet face is completely closed WHILE the ball is on the strings. You can even see the ball being flattened by his string bed in the blow up pic... proving that the photo was snapped exactly on impact.

The other pics show the ball either way off the strings or the racquet face is opened at least 30 degrees. Completely different scenario.

[Cody]

Video evidence is needed......

The others don't match Q's

[AlpineCadet]

Originally Posted by Bud

No. Querrey's racquet face is completely closed WHILE the ball is on the strings. You can even see the ball being flattened by his string bed in the blow up pic... proving that the photo was snapped exactly on impact.

The other pics show the ball either way off the strings or the racquet face is opened at least 30 degrees. Completely different scenario.

That's a PICTURE, not a video, and the ball doesn't look flattened at all. My point is: it's all speculation. Mishit/shank/reverse forehand, whatever it is, it's hard to argue one or the others. Am I being fair here?

[AlpineCadet]

Originally Posted by Cody

Video evidence is needed......

The others don't match Q's

EXACTLY my point. Too bad some ppl think their opinions are straight up facts.

[Bud]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

That's a PICTURE, not a video, and the ball doesn't look flattened at all. My point is: it's all speculation. Mishit/shank/reverse forehand, whatever it is, it's hard to argue one or the others. Am I being fair here?

Those of use who have tried hitting a ball with the racquet face completely closed know that it won't clear the net. It's common sense that no lift is provided on the ball with a closed racquet face at impact.

It one thing to close the racquet face on follow through and another to actually strike the ball when the racquet face is completely closed.

In the blowup, it's obvious the ball is not round as it impacts the strings. If you look really closely, it even appears the strings are slightly pushed back as the ball hits the string bed. Note how the string nearest the ball is not parallel with the one beside it.

In fact, it appears he may have even framed this shot... as the ball is striking the outter 2 strings on the racquet.

[AlpineCadet]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

Impossible to tell since the camera man wasn't quick enough to get the ball while it was still on the strings/frame. Same for Sam's pic. Without a vid, a pic is worth all your little words--and everyone else's. Verdasco's/Murray's pics come pretty close, but you get the idea, don't you?

"Bud", are you here to pat yourself on the back while making a fool of yourself, or are you here to discuss opinions? I don't care if it's a shank or a reverse forehand, and I don't care for whether or not I could be right for labeling it for what it really is. I'm posting here because I think it's ridiculous for someone to say that they know exactly what's going in those pics when he/she has no idea on how the ball was struck.

[Cody]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

EXACTLY my point. Too bad some ppl think their opinions are straight up facts.

I don't see how this shot it possible, i'm with bud here...
It seems like a miss-hit, no way does the wrist take that position aftr contact.

[Bud]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

Are you here to pat yourself on the back while making a fool of yourself, or are you here to discuss opinions? I don't care if it's a shank or a reverse forehand, and I don't care for whether or not I could be right for labeling it for what it really is. I'm posting here because I think it's ridiculous for someone to say that they know exactly what's going in those pics when he/she has no idea on how the ball was struck.

It's simple physics. Stop beating a dead horse. Did you revive this thread just to argue what is obvious to 95% of those looking at the pic?

Also, why would you even think of labeling this a reverse forehand. You have no idea what his follow through will be on this shot... assuming he even hit the ball with a full follow through.

[AlpineCadet]

What's obvious is post 66, and that this is all still speculation since we don't have video of the entire stroke. Was that fair to say? It's a discussion, and so I'm not sure why you want to enforce your opinion on someone who's pointing out the obvious.

[Bud]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

What's obvious is post 66, and that this is all still speculation since we don't have video of the entire stroke. Was that fair to say? It's a discussion, and so I'm not sure why you want to enforce your opinion on someone who's pointing out the obvious.

Yeah yeah... If you truly thought it was speculation you wouldn't have revived it with numerous pics of what you thought was a similar scenario.

Let's let the thread rest in peace now.

[AlpineCadet]

Video killed the wrong comments on a picture? Yeah, let's kill the thread now.

[AlpineCadet]

Originally Posted by Bud

Yeah yeah... If you truly thought it was speculation you wouldn't have revived it with numerous pics of what you thought was a similar scenario.

Let's let the thread rest in peace now.

You need to start proof reading your posts because your constant editing is confusing me.

I revived this thread to show pictures of similar forehands. But if you think you can automatically tell me if it was a shank or a not, I'll welcome your opinion.

[Bud]

Originally Posted by AlpineCadet

You need to start proof reading your posts because your constant editing is confusing me.

I revived this thread to show pictures of similar forehands. But if you think you can automatically tell me if it was a shank or a not, I'll welcome your opinion.

I edit so they read more easily. As you can see, there is no time stamp so it was created and edited quickly. Perhaps, you need to be more patient and wait until I finishing posting/editing prior to responding

[AlpineCadet]

K, I waited. You didn't edit. Congrats.