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11-05-2009, 06:34 PM
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11-05-2009, 07:34 PM
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He already said it didnt have the grip pallet on it yet. |
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11-05-2009, 07:42 PM
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I love it how everyone wants specs and is judging the beam width and mold and all this frame is is a pj. hhahah. guys look at the paint. it doesn't even have a handle yet. its just a hairpin.
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11-05-2009, 08:04 PM
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11-05-2009, 10:46 PM
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I saw that in person here at the US ClayCourt Championships in Houston. It looked like a Prestige Pro he was using.
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11-06-2009, 12:24 PM
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they are the same mold IMO PT57A mold= MGPMP =TGK238.1 mold, different layup sound feel balance weight etc... but the same mold
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11-06-2009, 03:16 PM
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11-06-2009, 06:22 PM
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The PT57E and MGPMP/TGK238.1 have absolutely nothing in common -- completely different mold. 1) The frame thickness (looking straight at the stringbed) is clearly thicker with the PT vs. the MGPMP 2) THe string spacing is clearly different 3) the head size/shape is clearly different And then the weight/balance/flex... Check your facts before posting a claim -- DEFINITELY not the same mold... I currently have the PT57A MGPMP PJ, and have had numerous TGK238.1 and retail MG...
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4.5; 4x Head PT57A (MG PJ), Genesis Spin-X @ 54 lbs and Gamma Professional @ 57 lbs. Last edited by dr325i : 11-06-2009 at 06:24 PM. |
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11-06-2009, 06:42 PM
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Notice you did not answer Kumat main question in this thread,is it because you do not know FOR SURE  http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showt...light=tgk238.1 Quote:
nada............. you never said the PT57A and the TGK238.1 are different molds in this thread, not a pip squeek I think you should stick to the Bimmer forum Dr325i, you were only introduced to these frames less than six months ago, you are a debutant.
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11-07-2009, 05:01 AM
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Stop crying like a little girl and accept the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about (in this case). PT57A is the PT630 mold that has nothing to do with the MGPMP. Second, I played with the PT57E a year ago, with the MGPMP/TGK after that and started with the PT57As some months ago. I used the PT630 before you were born... As for answering the other's person's question...did not even see it... Bottom line -- the PT57A and MGPMP/TGK238.1 are different molds...similar though... PS. Can you clarify your TGK238.2 question please?
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4.5; 4x Head PT57A (MG PJ), Genesis Spin-X @ 54 lbs and Gamma Professional @ 57 lbs. Last edited by dr325i : 11-07-2009 at 05:08 AM. |
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11-07-2009, 05:02 AM
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Way better...
These prestiges are very nice, and liked their Youtek paintjob design. Way better than the MG version. Struggling with the Wilson BLX and the Youteks about which are better. Any more pics clearer? Thx!
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11-07-2009, 05:07 AM
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4.5; 4x Head PT57A (MG PJ), Genesis Spin-X @ 54 lbs and Gamma Professional @ 57 lbs. |
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11-07-2009, 07:43 AM
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If the spacing were that different, can you use a PT57A CAPS on a TGK238.1 ? please say yes or no, not maybe. they either easily fit or do not fit. If the head size is different then the CAPS will not fit as well. Please answer these questions and I will admit my mistake, fair........
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11-07-2009, 08:01 AM
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in both of your posts you say the molds have nothing to do with one another and now you are saying they are similar though? I don’t get it?
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11-07-2009, 08:24 AM
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Michael, off topic but when are you getting your YT Prestiges demos? I'm looking forward to your reviews. You were spot on last time around re the MG series. I ended up using and loving the Pro.
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11-07-2009, 09:05 AM
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YES, you can fit the CAP on both. The spacing difference is minor (a few mm) but there is difference. I know it as I compared the two (laid them on top of each other), I used the TW SW calculator where you measure the distances tot he top string and noticed the differences, I felt more spin access witht he PT than TGK. To your next question -- yes, they are VERY similar molds, almost identical, very small differences, but DEFINITELY different. The thickness is the major one, and the head shape. The PT (both BRAND NEW, unstrung) has a tad wider head and DEFINTELY shorter (from bridge up to the top), no doubt about that. You mentioned the paint thickness which could be a possibility, but I doubt as it would have to be a 2mm paint on the PT, no chance. and I scratched them both to the graphite level and there is nothing special about the PT57A paint. WHy would they do SUPER thick paint anyway... It is very much obvious in the throat area, and a piece of throat just above the top of the grip... Finally, the area on both sides, just above the bridge, where the hoop starts, is another obvious difference -- on the PT57A it sticks out more, where on the MGPMP gets more elongated, smoother hoop shape, not sure how to explain that... It is very possible that it is derived from the identical mold and the Retail version is (intentionally or not) "adjusted" a little bit, but they are definitely not the same.
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11-07-2009, 09:38 AM
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^^^ thanks Dr325i for your response, we are getting closer, you see that was not so bad,
I will answer in detail later when I have enough time but as far as your major concern it is not 2mm difference in thickness, possibly less than 1mm difference and that could be paint I will elaborate later on my findings
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11-07-2009, 10:58 AM
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There are a few things obvious (and this is the last reply from me on the topic): 1) thickness -- more than 2mm thicker. 2) Head shape, definitely different shapes 3) flat part above the grip top thickness 4) string spacing 5) some say shaft shape also, but I don't have the TGKs any more to compare...
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11-07-2009, 01:41 PM
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I did measurments before on the MGprestigeMP vs the PT630 and since you agree that the TGK238.1 is IDENTICAL in mold to the MGpretige MP it is a good substitute. the difference is less than .5mm, you can not tell the difference with the naked eye, you need a digital macrometer which you did not have. Trust me less than .5mm in thickness is very easy to do with one simple paint stroke. the PT57A are around 20mm, are you telling me the TGK238.1 is more than 22mm thick? come on Dr325i, In the begining I made the same mistake and thought they were different molds but they are much much closer than I originally thought, the flat part above the grip is identical in length which makes this mold so unique. The area above the grip is noticably thinner on the PT57E's iprestige molds, the rest of your points are off.
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11-07-2009, 01:55 PM
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 was that during your 15 year period break from tennis when the PT630 came outI would like to invite you to our PT57A club if you like http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=167959
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