Pronation = fast twitch forearm muscle??

[Kevo]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Can't say catagorically that "getting stronger" is good for everyone. You have to look at the individual cases, one by one.
And BruceLee, when alive, at his peak, was around the same size (5'9", 140 lbs.).

Are we still talking about forearm or something else. I can see your point if we're talking about squatting 1000lbs., but for the forearm, I can't see how anybody playing tennis at a competitive level has a forearm so massive it will slow them down.

Like everything else there is moderation. If we take the opposing view, we could say that tennis players should get weaker to increase speed. If that's not true, then it must mean that everyone is at the perfect strength level right now. Like anything else, it's a matter of balance. People will have to try things for themselves and make their own determination whether they need more strength or not. I would guess that 80%, if not more, of tennis players will benefit from some additional strength.

[user92626]

All this pronation, forearm, wrist ect talks is very confusing. Would it be safe to say that you just have to understand the necessary swing path and just whip the racket along it as massively as possible.??

[LeeD]

For some tennis players, tennis is NOT about fastest swing speeds, massive ball speeds, and running around the court like a bull in heat.
Some people play tennis as an art form, in which subtleties, change of spins, change of ballspeeds, heights, and locations is more fun than big banging.
As for forearms bigger "always" better. Popeye couldn't play tennis. The natural gain in muscle in the forearm is from hitting hundreds of thousand FOREHANDS, BACKHANDS, VOLLEYS, PICKING UP THE BALL, and of course, SERVES.
I'll bet most of you hit more forehands than serves in any week, month, or year. I hit more volleys than serves.

[user92626]

leed,
are u referring to pushers?

[LeeD]

Pushers? Nope, not at all.
Some players play tennis as art form, so choose all the varying strokes, toy with the opponent, and vary placement of the ball and speeds. They can be totally aggressive players, wanting to end the point within 3 hits, so they can't be called pushers.
And EVERY top player is a pusher at times. Like when they're returning serve! Lots of them choose to just get the ball back. That is pushing!
Not pushing is trying to WIN the point with placement, speed/spin, and forcing the point to end.

[user92626]

pushers with junk balls and mis-hits?

that can also be turned into art as well.

[LeeD]

Think for once in your life!
A PUSHER just hits the ball back repeatedly waiting for his opponent's mistake!
Doesn't matter if he hits hard with topspin or whatever spin, he's WAITING for the opponent's mistake. That is pushing.
A guy who creates openings and tries to end the ball within maybe 1-4 shots is NOT PUSHING. Winning the point is different than the opponent losing the point. Winning is caused by YOU! You hit the ball where the opponent doesn't want it, and follow it up with a chess game of moving the opponent until you create the opening.
Pushing in chess is the guy who doesn't think ahead, but instead only counters his opponent's move.
The opposite of a pusher is someone with pre strategy, implements it, thinks 4 shots ahead, and plays it where the cards fall.