Difference in hoop shape between PC600 and Tour

[Bud]

Originally Posted by ipitythefool

My PT600s are not strung w/ tighter crosses to make them look "long". They look exactly like the ones as in Meaghan's and Pshulam's pics.
But the PC600, although it has been around the block with numerous stringings, keep its rounder head -roundness in comparison to PC600s.

Imo, I am starting to think, they really came off the factory with a slight difference as to head shapes. PT600 clearly looks as if it has a "longer" head.

Would be great to also hear VsBabolat's opinion!

Fabulous racquets they are!

P.S: Meaghan I see that you put some lead at 12!

IIRC, he's given his opinion a number of times... stating the molds are identical and any differential is caused by stringing.

It's also what others of us have found that string our own racquets. I've strung a ton of heads 600/630's and they definitely round out or lengthen if too much differential exists between main/cross tension.

[ipitythefool]

Originally Posted by Bud

IIRC, he's given his opinion a number of times... stating the molds are identical and any differential is caused by stringing.

It's also what others of us have found that string our own racquets. I've strung a ton of heads 600/630's and they definitely round out or lengthen if too much differential exists between main/cross tension.

it just doesn't make sense to me that three different PT600 owners, probably in three diff. places on earth, are talking about the same thing that (their) pt600s look longer (in comparison to pc600) Molds, throat area towards bottom are totally identical. But head shapes do look different. Three of us probably strung our pt600s with several combinations of strings at several different tensions, and all came out to have same "long hoop" looks?

Again, my PC600s are strung with same strings at same tensions. Totally rounder.

[Meaghan]

Originally Posted by ipitythefool

well if you ask my personal opinion, as you mentioned i would do vs gut mains and rough crosses, not all gut. I once put full bed gut on a PT630 at like 58 lbs, and it was way too powerful (and i didnt know it would be better to stretch the gut first) so i would definitely suggest you in my humble opinion to stick with what you have in mind (also you will have half set gut for the next string job or another stick)

moreover, imo, vs gut x rough combo is BY FAR the best string (hybrid) out there. I had it in a K. Team, have it on a PT57A...just superb but superb spin and power! Once you start hitting with gut mains and alu rough crosses, it totally explains and you realize how federer hits those shots. truly. I am a very high believer in gut x rough combo. (but not rough x gut, as rough will die quickly, whereas gut is quite playable until breakage so it is much more preferable to put it on mains in my opinion) Enjoy the racquets! (reading your old threads, i thought you were going to stick with the OPTs, which is another solid stick)

edit: but if strung with full bed gut a higher tension, i think it may also prove to be exceptional. i think vsbabolat plays w. full bed gut at 25kg. he must know something

Ive tried the gut x and rough mains and i get nothing from it. The other way round last me about 5 sets but I get amazing seves from it and as a S&V i cant complain but i have full western fore and back and the rough cuts right through it. Ive tried other stuff but dont get near the serving power/ slice/ spin so i feel ive just got to live with it.
I loved the modded OPT for consistency and baseline stuff but could not serve with it (if you see my serve then u would understand, I will post a vid soon!) but it taught me how to live at the baseline a little longer and not get too pressured. But my game revolves around my serve and getting to the net, Ive never tried full gut and to be honest with my set up i have to hold back a little on grounds but thats good too as it taught me not to overswing. It also made me more focussed on my strengths and to play to them.

Also i agree with what you say above. There is no issues about pc600s doing this then it strikes me as something inherent with the pt600s.

[ipitythefool]

Originally Posted by Meaghan

Ive tried the gut x and rough mains and i get nothing from it. The other way round last me about 5 sets but I get amazing seves from it and as a S&V i cant complain but i have full western fore and back and the rough cuts right through it. Ive tried other stuff but dont get near the serving power/ slice/ spin so i feel ive just got to live with it.
I loved the modded OPT for consistency and baseline stuff but could not serve with it (if you see my serve then u would understand, I will post a vid soon!) but it taught me how to live at the baseline a little longer and not get too pressured. But my game revolves around my serve and getting to the net, Ive never tried full gut and to be honest with my set up i have to hold back a little on grounds but thats good too as it taught me not to overswing. It also made me more focussed on my strengths and to play to them.

Also i agree with what you say above. There is no issues about pc600s doing this then it strikes me as something inherent with the pt600s.

i also like gut on the mains. though aside from the publicly popular Top 50 pros, the pros that I got to meet (top 500) do like alu on the mains! it is a nice string when it is VERY FRESH, but after that, it is completely dead! but i like it on crosses bec. it brings a balance to the power of the gut and also stiffness to the softer gut.
also, one advantage i found to gut on the mains is, for the s/v game! the gut is gripping to the ball perhaps a split second more, thus providing just a bit more time to get to the net! before experiencing with gut, i always wondered how the pros can get to the net so quick after the service. gut really gives that time
i remember seeing a pic of you and yes you got a good service stance. obvious that service is your forte. so perhaps it is a good thing that you dropped the opt and switched to mids. service with the pt600s should definitely be your forte from now on! my service is not my forte and i like groundstroke game. but with opt, although i like it, i could not get enough power from it! (tried many strings, last being pht 17 at 58lbs) I am putting gut on the mains in the next string job. I hope it will work nice with a 100sq in frame like that!

nevertheless, the ONLY frame that got me applauds from the watching crowd is the PC/PT600 Serves are nice, no question about it. But the groundstrokes...once you find the sweet spot and do the whip action, the ball will go like a zip! When everything sits well, lightning fast groundstrokes! It is quite headlight (in stock form) so that also helps with super fast shots. I simply love the racquet. One issue about it, since I can't get enough practise time (due to court/partner limitations in where I live) and that these mids require constant training (in my case) to have consistency in the game. after all, name of the game is consistency. Wonderful racquets, wish I could also try the Prestige Pro and PP600

[pshulam]

wish I could also try the Prestige Pro and PP600.

me too .. the Prestige Pro is harder to come by and usually at a much higher sticker price tag ($200+).