Can Federer beat Sampras record for weeks at number 1? - Page 2

joeri888 · 11-19-2009, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMagicianOfPrecision

According my calculations the week before Madrid would put him at 284 weeks

So he needs to have no. 1 ranking directly after the French, but before Halle?

GasquetGOAT · 11-19-2009, 03:46 AM

Why are Fed fans all so greedy? Like someone said, let Pete have his bone. Fed already has the consective weeks at No.1 record which is far more impressive than consective years at No.1.

TheMagicianOfPrecision · 11-19-2009, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by joeri888

So he needs to have no. 1 ranking directly after the French, but before Halle?

I would think so...not to sure though

ninman · 11-19-2009, 03:58 AM

I for one hope he does it, but he doesnt have to do it in one go, Sampras held the number ranking on around 12 separate occassions, Federer has only held it twice, and probably would have a streak of around 290 weeks if not for Nadal have a superb 2008 and Federer having a bout of mono.

That's as maybe, but breaking the record for most total weeks as number 1 and only need to stints at number 1 to do it is an amazing feet.

joeri888 · 11-19-2009, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ninman

I for one hope he does it, but he doesnt have to do it in one go, Sampras held the number ranking on around 12 separate occassions, Federer has only held it twice, and probably would have a streak of around 290 weeks if not for Nadal have a superb 2008 and Federer having a bout of mono.

That's as maybe, but breaking the record for most total weeks as number 1 and only need to stints at number 1 to do it is an amazing feet.

Yup, but if Federer loses it once more, I really don't see him getting it back for a significant period again tbh. If he loses it, he'll stop going for it I am afraid.

TheMagicianOfPrecision · 11-19-2009, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joeri888

Yup, but if Federer loses it once more, I really don't see him getting it back for a significant period again tbh. If he loses it, he'll stop going for it I am afraid.

I agree, it would be very hard since he will not be imo as consistent as Murray and Djokovic in the MS-tourneys, Nadal im not afraid of at all, he has already peaked.

boojay · 11-19-2009, 06:03 AM

It's more a question of 'when' he'll beat Sampras record and 'if' he can take down Graf.

joeri888 · 11-19-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by boojay

It's more a question of 'when' he'll beat Sampras record and 'if' he can take down Graf.

How many weeks did Graf have?

grafselesfan · 11-19-2009, 06:10 AM

Federer wont beat Graf's record for most weeks at #1 and even if he did it would be not as impressive as Graf by far had tougher competition.

dh003i · 11-19-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GasquetGOAT

Why are Fed fans all so greedy? Like someone said, let Pete have his bone. Fed already has the consective weeks at No.1 record which is far more impressive than consective years at No.1.

If I was into tennis when Sampras was playing, I'd be rooting for him to break all of the records (and win the FO), as well.

Some people just like to see the process of greatness.

But Federer won't break Sampras' record for 6 years ending #1 (although he has been #1 after Wimbledon for 6 consecutive years before).

Michael Bluth · 11-19-2009, 06:14 AM

Maybe he would have if he had Chang, Rios and Rafter as his main competition for the second half of his dominant period.

TheMagicianOfPrecision · 11-19-2009, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by grafselesfan

Federer wont beat Graf's record for most weeks at #1 and even if he did it would be not as impressive as Graf by far had tougher competition.

As you would know, Grafs succes has a bitter taste of-blood.

grafselesfan · 11-19-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMagicianOfPrecision

As you would know, Grafs succes has a bitter taste of-blood.

Yes indeed, she scared the blood out of every single one of her opponents, something Federer doesnt do to Nadal or Murray, or even Djokovic.

TMF · 11-19-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by grafselesfan

Federer wont beat Graf's record for most weeks at #1 and even if he did it would be not as impressive as Graf by far had tougher competition.

WRONG!

Men's tennis are much, much more difficult accomplish. Women's tennis is easier to dominate. Notice every single records/streaks in men's tennis pale in comparison to women. If Roger ever matched Graf's total weeks at #1, it is by far way more impressive.

In fact, Roger's 15 GS is just as(if not) more difficult feat than Graf's 22 GS.

P_Agony · 11-19-2009, 06:30 AM

I don't think Federer will let Sampras hold any record. That means Fed will break the weels at #1 record and Wimbledon titles won (Fed will match this record, not break it, IMO).

P_Agony · 11-19-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF

WRONG!

Men's tennis are much, much more difficult accomplish. Women's tennis is easier to dominate. Notice every single records/streaks in men's tennis pale in comparison to women. If Roger ever matched Graf's total weeks at #1, it is by far way more impressive.

In fact, Roger's 15 GS is just as(if not) more difficult feat than Graf's 22 GS.

It is far more difficult. No disrespect to Graf, but comparing men's tennis to women's tennis is a joke.

grafselesfan · 11-19-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF

WRONG!

Men's tennis are much, much more difficult accomplish. Women's tennis is easier to dominate. Notice every single records/streaks in men's tennis pale in comparison to women. If Roger ever matched Graf's total weeks at #1, it is by far way more impressive.

In fact, Roger's 15 GS is just as(if not) more difficult feat than Graf's 22 GS.

The field from 1998-2006 was the worst period for mens tennis ever. And yes I know Sampras won 4 of his slams during this time, but Federer won 9 of his and had alot of his dominance and time at #1 from 2004-2006. Lets look at some things that happened during 2004-2006:

-in 2004 a French Open that produced Henman in the semis, and a Coria-Gaudio final with Gaudio as Champion

-in 2006 James Blake as the year end World #4 (hahaha) a player who would never reach a single slam semifinal in his life, nor win a single Masters title.

-From 2005 onwards Davydenko becoming a regular top 3 player, and ending 2006 #3 in the World. This being a guy who many years later still hasnt reached a single slam final.

-Ivan Ljubicic reaching #3 in the World in 2006

The reason Graf is the undisputed female GOAT and Federer is not the mens GOAT is she backed down from nobody, which Federer certainly cant say. Navratilova, Seles, Sanchez Vicario, Evert, Hingis, Davenport, you name it, Graf beat them repeatedly on all surfaces. Even those very rare periods she was ranked below them she did not fear any of them at any point, if anything she struck fears in them. She did not get scared of main rivals or develop a mental block vs them, or all that silly stuff for a so called GOAT you associate with Federer when it comes to Nadal, Murray, even Djokovic. You can harp on pre stabbing Seles all you want but in Monica's best year ever she barely beat Graf on her own best surface (10-8 in the 3rd) and got humiliated on Graf's. During her own dominance in 91-early 93 she lost to Graf on every surface, and their 2 matches on a medium to fast court which favored Graf was bullied around both times. Contrast that to Federer who has always had massive trouble beating Nadal on grass, was losing to him regularly on hard courts as a teenager, and is part of a farcial non rivalry with him on Nadal's turf- clay. Graf dominated on all surfaces unlike Federer.

AAAA · 11-19-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by grafselesfan

Federer wont beat Graf's record for most weeks at #1 and even if he did it would be not as impressive as Graf by far had tougher competition.

So which almighty challenger to Graf had a winning h2h, was physically at least an equal if not more so? Martina Navratilova doesn't count because she was past her best during Graf's golden years.

TMF · 11-19-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by P_Agony

I don't think Federer will let Sampras hold any record. That means Fed will break the weels at #1 record and Wimbledon titles won (Fed will match this record, not break it, IMO).

Roger doesn't necessary need to break the SW19 record, but winning 7 is good enough. If he win in 2010, Roger will hold the upperhand:

1. 5 conecutive SW19 titles
2. 8 consecutive final
3. Record for most consecutive win on grass

AAAA · 11-19-2009, 06:39 AM

Nice contradiction here.

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Originally Posted by grafselesfan

Federer wont beat Graf's record for most weeks at #1 and even if he did it would be not as impressive as Graf by far had tougher competition.

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Originally Posted by grafselesfan

Yes indeed, she scared the blood out of every single one of her opponents, something Federer doesnt do to Nadal or Murray, or even Djokovic.

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