Atrocity act of Chinese Premier Wen Jia Bao

[ninman]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

It's doesn't mean better. Just maybe better to Westerners. Like my Westernized palate prefers Westernized food. But when it comes to local Chinese food, I'm referring mostly to the quality. I'm not sure if anyone, other than the local Chinese, would find soggy vegetables drenched in a pool of oil to be more appetizing than crisp, tasty, expertly stir-fried vegetables that are common in Chinese restaurants in the U.S.

BTW, although I've never been to Italy, I've heard that the pizza in New York is better than the pizza in Italy.

I don't know where you were eating but as they say "you get what you pay for", if you want top quality food you have to go to a top quality restaurant. Also there are some dishes in China that are served in oil, so maybe you are just ordering the wrong thing.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by ninman

Sure I can explain to you what it means 笨 pronounced "ben" means stupid, and 蛋 means an egg. In China it's quite a common insult. I thought it was more appropriate to insult you in Chinese given the way you are insulting anyone who disagrees with you.

I find non-natives who throw around the few words of a foreign language that they know, to be pretentious fools. I know the type. I've met a few here in Japan-and have managed to put some of them in their rightful place. Believe me, it's not news that you can mumble or scrawl a few words of another language.

If I insulted you, then you have a very thin skin. Must be all those chicken feet that you're eating. You, on the other hand, have thrown around quite a few words meant to be insulting-though you're harmless to me.

Anyway, it's clear that you lack the palatte (and I'm not talking about the Naked Chef here) to distinguish between decent food and slop. You ARE from Scotland and that might explain a few things. Haggis and deep fried Mars bars...so yeah, I guess ANYTHING you shove into your pie hole is gonna taste pretty yummy.

[ninman]

Originally Posted by Phil

I find non-natives who throw around the few words of a foreign language that they know, to be pretentious fools. I know the type. I've met a few here in Japan-and have managed to put some of them in their rightful place. Believe me, it's not news that you can mumble or scrawl a few words of another language.

If I insulted you, then you have a very thin skin. Must be all those chicken feet that you're eating. You, on the other hand, have thrown around quite a few words meant to be insulting-though you're harmless to me.

Anyway, it's clear that you lack the palatte (and I'm not talking about the Naked Chef here) to distinguish between decent food and slop. You ARE from Scotland and that might explain a few things. Haggis and deep fried Mars bars...so yeah, I guess ANYTHING you shove into your pie hole is gonna taste pretty yummy.

Not that it's any of your business, but I've actually been studying Chinese for the best part of a year and half, and know well over 2000 characters, and speak, read and write quite fluently. You sound like a deeply unpleasant person, but it's no surprise that you fit in quite well in Japan, it's also no surprise that you think Chinese food is bad, because Japanese food is really terrible. Trust me I've spoken to Japanese people here who said the Japanese food in Shanghai is much the same as the Japanese food in Japan, and that really is sloppy joes at it's best, but then you're probably an American so you can't tell the difference between plastic and real food.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by ninman

Not that it's any of your business, but I've actually been studying Chinese for the best part of a year and half...and speak, read and write quite fluently.

This is hilarious. 'nuff said-my pretentious fool remark to describe you is more relevant than ever. Man, can I call 'em or what? Go look-up the word "fluent". 100 to 1 that you aren't even in the ballpark on that-not after such a short time.

...it's no surprise that you fit in quite well in Japan...

What's that supposed to mean?

it's also no surprise that you think Chinese food is bad, because Japanese food is really terrible.

What does Japanese food have to do with this discussion, junior? And if you go down the list of people who agree that the food on the mainland is slop, just in this thread, you may realize that we're on to something.

Trust me I've spoken to Japanese people here who said the Japanese food in Shanghai is much the same as the Japanese food in Japan,...

I don't trust you on this.

... then you're probably an American so you can't tell the difference between plastic and real food.

Well, many Americans can't. I can.

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Ninman's attempt to "defend" China's Chinese food in order to show how "impartial" he is towards China is just pathetic.

[BreakPoint]

I actually think the Japanese food in Japan is quite good, not that you can't also get good Japanese food in the U.S.

I think the difference between the Chinese food in China and the Japanese food in Japan is the attention to quality and freshness. Not as much in the former as in the latter.

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[ninman]

Originally Posted by Phil

This is hilarious. 'nuff said-my pretentious fool remark to describe you is more relevant than ever. Man, can I call 'em or what? Go look-up the word "fluent". 100 to 1 that you aren't even in the ballpark on that-not after such a short time.

Whatever dude, some people learn faster than others. I know a guy whose been learning Chinese for 7 months and he's already at HSK level 6 or 7, I won't be there for at least another 6 months or so. I didn't say I was fluent, I just said I speak quite fluently, meaning that I can hold my own in conversations for the best part of an hour or more.

[ninman]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

I actually think the Japanese food in Japan is quite good, not that you can't also get good Japanese food in the U.S.

I think the difference between the Chinese food in China and the Japanese food in Japan is the attention to quality and freshness. Not as much in the former as in the latter.

Well what do you expect from a developing country with over 1.3 billion people? Not every restaurant in town can afford completely fresh ingredients. China is a bigger country than the whole of US, Europe and probably several other countries combined. Anyway, as I said you get what you pay for, if you only want to spend 30p on a meal then you cant expect top quality nosh, but as far as ordinary restaurants go, they don't differ from the UK substantially at all.

[BreakPoint]

Originally Posted by ninman

Well what do you expect from a developing country with over 1.3 billion people? Not every restaurant in town can afford completely fresh ingredients. China is a bigger country than the whole of US, Europe and probably several other countries combined. Anyway, as I said you get what you pay for, if you only want to spend 30p on a meal then you cant expect top quality nosh, but as far as ordinary restaurants go, they don't differ from the UK substantially at all.

The thing is, in Japan, you can go to a hole in the wall tiny noddle shop (soba-ya) and still get great soba or ramen or udon.

I've been to some of the most expensive restaurants in China (as a foreign guest of local companies), but generally when it comes to Chinese food, the more expensive and authentic it is, the less I tend to like it.

BTW, remind me never to go to a Chinese restaurant in the UK.

[ninman]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

The thing is, in Japan, you can go to a hole in the wall tiny noddle shop (soba-ya) and still get great soba or ramen or udon.

I've been to some of the most expensive restaurants in China (as a foreign guest of local companies), but generally when it comes to Chinese food, the more expensive and authentic it is, the less I tend to like it.

BTW, remind me never to go to a Chinese restaurant in the UK.

Yes well China isn't exactly up to speed when it comes to things like hygiene, also people don't open restaurants in China because they happen to enjoy cooking, they do it to make money. The difference in attitude means that Chinese people will use less good quality ingredients to make more profit.

Also, yes Chinese restaurants in the UK SUCK, OMG they are god awful, so yes, never go to a Chinese restaurant in the UK.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by ninman

Whatever dude, some people learn faster than others. I know a guy whose been learning Chinese for 7 months and he's already at HSK level 6 or 7, I won't be there for at least another 6 months or so. I didn't say I was fluent, I just said I speak quite fluently, meaning that I can hold my own in conversations for the best part of an hour or more.

Yeah, whatever dude. You're no different from some of the other nitwits on this board-the kids who say they're 4.5 or 5.0-level tennis players after playing for a year or year and a half. Those of us who actually PLAY the game (and those of us who actually SPEAK an Asian language) know better.

[ninman]

Originally Posted by Phil

Yeah, whatever dude. You're no different from some of the other nitwits on this board-the kids who say they're 4.5 or 5.0-level tennis players after playing for a year or year and a half. Those of us who actually PLAY the game (and those of us who actually SPEAK an Asian language) know better.

好的，这是你的看法，我不同意你。我听得懂中国频道和电影我也知道两千汉字，你是一个混蛋。我不相信你吃过 中餐，因为中餐比西餐好吃，我爱中餐，但是我觉得上海菜有点儿甜，四川菜有点儿辣。你学日语多久，我也不相 信你会说日语因为你太傻。

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[Phil]

Originally Posted by ninman

好的，这是你的看法，我不同意你。我听得懂中国频道和电影我也知道两千汉字，你是一个混蛋。我不相信你吃过 中餐，因为中餐比西餐好吃，我爱中餐，但是我觉得上海菜有点儿甜，四川菜有点儿辣。你学日语多久，我也不相 信你会说日语因为你太傻。

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Wow, thanks for proving my point.