Old molds

Dino Lagaffe · 11-15-2009, 12:52 PM

Maybe I'm showing off my limited know-how here, but do racquet companies keep all old molds? Can, as an example, Head decide to make a new run of the first Twin Tube Radical just like that?

jorel · 11-16-2009, 07:23 AM

they CAN,...

how much are u willing to pay?

jorel · 11-16-2009, 07:23 AM

unless the molds were destroyed somehow... like the St Vincent factory burned down along with all the original pro staff 85 molds

Dino Lagaffe · 11-16-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jorel

they CAN,... how much are u willing to pay?

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Originally Posted by jorel

unless the molds were destroyed somehow... like the St Vincent factory burned down along with all the original pro staff 85 molds

That's what I thought. Obviously it would be quite expensive if I bought just one racquet, so that's not likely to happen... But if there was a larger series re-run of a racquet I really liked, why not? That's something Nike/Jordan makes a pretty little income on every year...

jorel · 11-17-2009, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dino Lagaffe

That's what I thought. Obviously it would be quite expensive if I bought just one racquet, so that's not likely to happen... But if there was a larger series re-run of a racquet I really liked, why not? That's something Nike/Jordan makes a pretty little income on every year...

i think thats what happened with the special makeup of the 6.0 series a few yrs back

TW ordered a buttload and Wilson complied

joe sch · 11-17-2009, 06:19 AM

Boris Becker purchased the mold (copywright) to the puma becker and had Estusa make his racket for him later in his career. Lendl sorta did the same transitioning from kneissl to adidas. You could make your own mold and get it copywrighted or buy the Becker mold and try to pay a racket manufacturer to make rackets for you. You could probably even get one of those Asian knockoff makers to produce copywrighted rackets for you. Its just a matter of $$$ and how much you have to spend. It is very cool that TW can get remakes of some of the classics like the ps60. Many of us would love to see some gtxProTs, pc600s or max200gs reproduced

ericsson · 11-17-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by joe sch

Boris Becker purchased the mold (copywright) to the puma becker and had Estusa make his racket for him later in his career. Lendl sorta did the same transitioning from kneissl to adidas. You could make your own mold and get it copywrighted or buy the Becker mold and try to pay a racket manufacturer to make rackets for you. You could probably even get one of those Asian knockoff makers to produce copywrighted rackets for you. Its just a matter of $$$ and how much you have to spend. It is very cool that TW can get remakes of some of the classics like the ps60. Many of us would love to see some gtxProTs, pc600s or max200gs reproduced

I can add that the plain red/blue was made in Kennelbach by Head, by that time Estusa was gone and the mold was Becker's only.

MichaelChang · 11-17-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dino Lagaffe

Can, as an example, Head decide to make a new run of the first Twin Tube Radical just like that?

I think to make a racket it is not just the mold. The mold only defines the physical shape, but not the inside ingredients. The TT Radical mold is still being used (technically should call it the Trisys 260 MP mold), I mean it is the same as the PT630 mold and the PT57a is being made out of this mold, isn't it.

pshulam · 11-17-2009, 07:08 PM

Agreed - different materials, tooling, equipment and process may also be required.

classic tennis · 11-25-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by joe sch

Boris Becker purchased the mold (copywright) to the puma becker and had Estusa make his racket for him later in his career. Lendl sorta did the same transitioning from kneissl to adidas. You could make your own mold and get it copywrighted or buy the Becker mold and try to pay a racket manufacturer to make rackets for you. You could probably even get one of those Asian knockoff makers to produce copywrighted rackets for you. Its just a matter of $$$ and how much you have to spend. It is very cool that TW can get remakes of some of the classics like the ps60. Many of us would love to see some gtxProTs, pc600s or max200gs reproduced

I think it has nothing to do with TW or whoever, anyone with a lazy twenty grand or so can make and market what they want as long as they have a original, there are plenty of factories that as long as you can stump up five grand for the tooling contract a run of at least 300 pcs at say thirty bucks a pop you are in business, in reality there are very, very few copywrighted or patented bats.....people will try and scare you off but basically it's BS. It all depends if you can make it work or not.

khw72004 · 11-25-2009, 08:42 AM

There are ways to find new rackets in the mold you want. You just have to look for them and pay the price

11-15-2009, 12:52 PM	#1
Dino Lagaffe Semi-Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 470	Old molds Maybe I'm showing off my limited know-how here, but do racquet companies keep all old molds? Can, as an example, Head decide to make a new run of the first Twin Tube Radical just like that? __________________ Member #1 TW 200+ mph serve-club Wilson T2000 (modified by P1) 23.2 oz, Barbwire strung at 100 lbs.

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jorel Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,525	they CAN,... how much are u willing to pay? __________________ wowzers

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jorel Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,525	unless the molds were destroyed somehow... like the St Vincent factory burned down along with all the original pro staff 85 molds __________________ wowzers

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joe sch Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hotel CA Posts: 2,899	Boris Becker purchased the mold (copywright) to the puma becker and had Estusa make his racket for him later in his career. Lendl sorta did the same transitioning from kneissl to adidas. You could make your own mold and get it copywrighted or buy the Becker mold and try to pay a racket manufacturer to make rackets for you. You could probably even get one of those Asian knockoff makers to produce copywrighted rackets for you. Its just a matter of $$$ and how much you have to spend. It is very cool that TW can get remakes of some of the classics like the ps60. Many of us would love to see some gtxProTs, pc600s or max200gs reproduced Last edited by joe sch : 11-17-2009 at 06:21 AM.

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