Head Code names

[dParis]

Originally Posted by Mdubb23

Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

Is there an initiation, or do you have to know a secret handshake, before you can start using a Head racquet?

Mastering Dungeons & Dragons was easier than this...

[zspyderman]

Originally Posted by Mdubb23

Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

I think this is a pretty accurate list. During tests, the E def. felt stiffet then the A, and it is is much closer to the original Pro Tour. The only other thing I would like to add is that Murray plays with the PT57A. I see his racquets all the time at the stringer when picking up ours.

[dr325i]

Originally Posted by zspyderman

I think this is a pretty accurate list. During tests, the E def. felt stiffet then the A, and it is is much closer to the original Pro Tour. The only other thing I would like to add is that Murray plays with the PT57A. I see his racquets all the time at the stringer when picking up ours.

Hey man, it must be the custom 57A since Murray's string pattern is 16x19

[zspyderman]

Originally Posted by dr325i

Hey man, it must be the custom 57A since Murray's string pattern is 16x19

They do make the 16x19 mold. Murray could be using it. It's usually picked by players who come to HEAD from another brand.

[Mdubb23]

Originally Posted by zspyderman

They do make the 16x19 mold. Murray could be using it. It's usually picked by players who come to HEAD from another brand.

You could be right, but a highly-esteemed poster on these boards, Ericsson, has one of Murray's racquets, and there is no code anywhere on the frame.

[RacquetCraft]

Originally Posted by zspyderman

I think this is a pretty accurate list. During tests, the E def. felt stiffet then the A, and it is is much closer to the original Pro Tour. The only other thing I would like to add is that Murray plays with the PT57A. I see his racquets all the time at the stringer when picking up ours.

zspyderman, you are bang-on correct with your assessment of the E and you are also spot on correct that Murray uses a PT57A (with a 16x19 drill pattern).

RacquetCraft

[PED]

Originally Posted by RacquetCraft

zspyderman, you are bang-on correct with your assessment of the E and you are also spot on correct that Murray uses a PT57A (with a 16x19 drill pattern).



RacquetCraft

He switched at the AO back in 2008 right to the 16 19, correct? What was he using under that old I Radical PJ-was it likely just an 18X20 PT57A?

[zspyderman]

Originally Posted by Mdubb23

You could be right, but a highly-esteemed poster on these boards, Ericsson, has one of Murray's racquets, and there is no code anywhere on the frame.

These guys go through a ton of racquets. I see his racquets all the time. The one with no code could be an early version from the time they changed the paint job to Youtek, and they got his before the production started on the new design PTs.

[Automatix]

Originally Posted by Mdubb23

Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

A few questions...

According to this TGK231.2 would be a stiff Radical MP 16x19 however I found this code to describe a stiffer Radical MP but with a 18x20 stringpattern.

What I've gathered:
TGK231.1 - MG Radical MP 18x20
TGK231.2 - MG Radical MP 18x20 (stiffer ver.)
TGK231.3 - MG Radical MP 16x19
TGK237.1 - MG Prestige Mid
TGK237.2 - MG Prestige Mid 16x19
TGK238.1 - MG Prestige MP
TGK238.2 - MG Prestige Pro
TGK238.3 - Prestige Pro Room (Wawrinka)
PT10 - Prestige Classic 600
PT57A - Pro Tour 630 (RA 53-57)
PT57E - Pro Tour 630 (RA 58-62)
PT161 - Liquidmetal Instinct
PT167A - FXP Radical MP
TGK260.1 - YouTek Radical MP
TGK260.2 - YouTek Radical Pro 16x19
TGK262.1 - YouTek Speed Pro
TGK263.1 - YouTek Speed MP 16x19

Any input???

[Mdubb23]

Originally Posted by Automatix

A few questions...

According to this TGK231.2 would be a stiff Radical MP 16x19 however I found this code to describe a stiffer Radical MP but with a 18x20 stringpattern.

What I've gathered:
TGK231.1 - MG Radical MP 18x20
TGK231.2 - MG Radical MP 18x20 (stiffer ver.)
TGK231.3 - MG Radical MP 16x19
TGK237.1 - MG Prestige Mid
TGK237.2 - MG Prestige Mid 16x19
TGK238.1 - MG Prestige MP
TGK238.2 - MG Prestige Pro
TGK238.3 - Prestige Pro Room (Wawrinka)
PT10 - Prestige Classic 600
PT57A - Pro Tour 630 (RA 53-57)
PT57E - Pro Tour 630 (RA 58-62)
PT161 - Liquidmetal Instinct
PT167A - FXP Radical MP
TGK260.1 - YouTek Radical MP
TGK260.2 - YouTek Radical Pro 16x19TGK262.1 - YouTek Speed Pro
TGK263.1 - YouTek Speed MP 16x19

Any input???

I was not aware of those.

And, it definitely looks like the 231.2 is 16x19, based on item number 300369832502 on the 'Bay.

[downs_chris]

anyone ever seen a microgel prestige pro that's ALL white on the inside of the throat -- no codes or writing / logos?

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by Mdubb23

I was not aware of those.

And, it definitely looks like the 231.2 is 16x19, based on item number 300369832502 on the 'Bay.

How did you come to that conclusion? Chardy uses TGK231.2 and his racquets are 18x20.

Originally Posted by Darn76

I have a Head Microgel Radical which belonged to Jeremy Chardy, it has no printing inside the throat like the sticks you buy in the store, however the code on the inside is TGK 231.2. Does anyone know what this code means?

The TGK231.3 is 16x19.............

[Fedace]

Get Real,,, we are all being fooled by these codes by Head. Pros really do use what they advertise....lol

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by Fedace

Get Real,,, we are all being fooled by these codes by Head. Pros really do use what they advertise....lol

Get out of here you fool!!!!!!!!!

[Mdubb23]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

How did you come to that conclusion? Chardy uses TGK231.2 and his racquets are 18x20.


The TGK231.3 is 16x19.............

You're exactly right.

Automatix, I apologize, I miscounted the grommets.

[Mdubb23]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Get out of here you fool!!!!!!!!!

I repeat, you're exactly right.

[BobFL]

Originally Posted by downs_chris

anyone ever seen a microgel prestige pro that's ALL white on the inside of the throat -- no codes or writing / logos?

Yep, I have....

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by zspyderman

I think this is a pretty accurate list. During tests, the E def. felt stiffet then the A, and it is is much closer to the original Pro Tour. The only other thing I would like to add is that Murray plays with the PT57A. I see his racquets all the time at the stringer when picking up ours.

Murray's racquets have no code in the throat.

Originally Posted by ericsson

Here some pics:

Originally Posted by ericsson

You're welcome guys!
there is no TGK code but there is something, TUE 62, honestly i think it has something to do with the stringing, Tuesday and 62 lbs maybe, i hope Ron can chime in here from P1, i also think (i'm quite sure actually) it is strung by Ron or P1, just take a look at how short they cut the knots!

[Automatix]

Originally Posted by Mdubb23

Automatix, I apologize, I miscounted the grommets.

No prob. We're all seeking the truth after all I was just surprised because this info was checked by someone very knowledgeable.

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Get out of here you fool!!!!!!!!!

+1!!!

[zspyderman]

Originally Posted by BobFL

Yep, I have....

When HEAD changes the designs on their pro sticks, it's not a small production and it takes some effort. Some of the no-mark racquets are early versions they supply their top players with before the new paint jobs arrive for distribution for all the other pros. I don't think the codes have anything to do with the string pattern. It's more the material composit and length. Any one of those could be made into a 16x19 mold or the 18x20 mold. It really depends on what a particular player prefers.
You can clearly see that Chardy uses the 18x20. If you look at any of Murray's pics you will see the same... Although it is concievable he had used both at one time or another to try. He goes through more racquets then anyone else.