Can someone explain the base clamp terminology?

[sstchur]

Originally Posted by mad dog1

imo, stand mount is the only way to go when stringing...

regarding your buyer's remorse...i've used both the cone lock & spring loaded base clamps...spring loaded is a little more convenient and saves a few secs/pull, but i would be fine w/ either honestly. at least you have fixed clamps. if you had flying clamps, you'd have serious buyer's remorse. your MP Titan is a fine machine & will serve you well for many, many years...my suggestion is just use if for a few years then sell it & upgrade to something better. u can practice perfecting your technique & consistency on a "inferior" machine. when you upgrade to a high end model, your string jobs will just be better. happy stringing.

Yeah, that's kinda where I'm settling (emotionally) as well. Thanks for your input. It helps, and I /am/ happy with the machine. It is very well built and is 100% as advertised, so no real complaints -- just a momentary bit of buyer's remorse, but it is passing

(I think also, that I may have actually been tightening the cone locks more than necessary.)

[David123]

hmm i guess our opinions are different.. but thats based on the individual.

[tbuggle]

combo 910 gets the most features for the least money.

i looked up and down before purchasing.

it doesn't have SC mounts, but that doesn't bother me at all.

i agree with the wanting an integrated stand part, anything else was a compromise to me, PLUS once you buy a cart stand you may as well have bought a stand-up model.

[sstchur]

Originally Posted by tbuggle

combo 910 gets the most features for the least money.

i looked up and down before purchasing.

it doesn't have SC mounts, but that doesn't bother me at all.

i agree with the wanting an integrated stand part, anything else was a compromise to me, PLUS once you buy a cart stand you may as well have bought a stand-up model.

Yeah, a part of me regrets not considering the Combo 910. It truly has everything I wanted -- or now realize I wanted -- minus the SC mounts.

I was just scared away from all the negative comments about their service. But it sounds like the 910 is the real deal.

I'm now considering buying 3-tooth clamps and spring assisted bases from Alpha, which would actually just put me back at the price of the Apex, which I suppose I should have just gone with to begin with (either that or a Combo 910 -- had I realized a month ago that these other features were important to me, that is.)

It's a shame Eagnas won't sell me spring assisted clamp bases...

Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

[tbuggle]

Originally Posted by sstchur

Yeah, a part of me regrets not considering the Combo 910. It truly has everything I wanted -- or now realize I wanted -- minus the SC mounts.

I was just scared away from all the negative comments about their service. But it sounds like the 910 is the real deal.

I'm now considering buying 3-tooth clamps and spring assisted bases from Alpha, which would actually just put me back at the price of the Apex, which I suppose I should have just gone with to begin with (either that or a Combo 910 -- had I realized a month ago that these other features were important to me, that is.)

It's a shame Eagnas won't sell me spring assisted clamp bases...

Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

eagnas will sell you the clamp bases, you just have to get creative (barely).

[Lakers4Life]

^^^ I agree, just tell them you are upgrading a Flex 940. If they ask where you got it from, tell them you bought it used.

[tbuggle]

^^^ winner!!!

[David123]

Originally Posted by sstchur

Yeah, a part of me regrets not considering the Combo 910. It truly has everything I wanted -- or now realize I wanted -- minus the SC mounts.

I was just scared away from all the negative comments about their service. But it sounds like the 910 is the real deal.

I'm now considering buying 3-tooth clamps and spring assisted bases from Alpha, which would actually just put me back at the price of the Apex, which I suppose I should have just gone with to begin with (either that or a Combo 910 -- had I realized a month ago that these other features were important to me, that is.)

It's a shame Eagnas won't sell me spring assisted clamp bases...

Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

I feel bad for you. Thats why I've been doing tons of research and waiting before i bought a machine. People were yelling at me on the forums to just buy a machine already, but i didnt give in. I want to make sure i am buying exactly what i want. Its hard i know, but if i already have a borrowed machine from a friend (progression 602) why rush? Even if i didn't i wouldn't rush. Even though any machine is better than no machine, i would rather get the machine i want right the first time instead of having to upgrade which costs more, or selling and buying again which takes a lot of time and effort. but then again, MP is a great machine. How often do you string?

[sstchur]

Originally Posted by David123

I feel bad for you. Thats why I've been doing tons of research and waiting before i bought a machine. People were yelling at me on the forums to just buy a machine already, but i didnt give in. I want to make sure i am buying exactly what i want. Its hard i know, but if i already have a borrowed machine from a friend (progression 602) why rush? Even if i didn't i wouldn't rush. Even though any machine is better than no machine, i would rather get the machine i want right the first time instead of having to upgrade which costs more, or selling and buying again which takes a lot of time and effort. but then again, MP is a great machine. How often do you string?

Much of what you say makes sense. There is a balance to achieve between researching infinitely and buying too quickly.

I feel like this is something that I probably couldn't have really gotten right the first time, to be honest.

I feel like I DID make the right decision with the information I had at the time.

I didn't know I would be stringing this many racquets (it's not a ton, maybe 5 to 8 per week), but I generally promise whatever turnaround my customers want, so sometimes I'll have 3 or 4 to do in an evening. And because of my work and family schedule I cannot usually start until about 9pm (and I usually get up at 5am).

Had I realized much of this up front, I would have gone with spring-assisted clamps. I also didn't think 5-tooth vs 3-tooth matter much (and if it's just a few racquets a month, then I still think it doesn't). But when doing several in a row, I'm starting to appreciate the "little" things.

Also, it's worth pointing out, for anyone following my posts on the forums, that I am an especially fussy person (I should have taken THAT into account when purchasing!). Most people, to be honest, are probably not as fussy as I am. I sometimes joke that it is my "never-ending quest in life to remain miserable 100% of the time, no matter what my situation is"

[David123]

Originally Posted by sstchur

Much of what you say makes sense. There is a balance to achieve between researching infinitely and buying too quickly.

I feel like this is something that I probably couldn't have really gotten right the first time, to be honest.

I feel like I DID make the right decision with the information I had at the time.

I didn't know I would be stringing this many racquets (it's not a ton, maybe 5 to 8 per week), but I generally promise whatever turnaround my customers want, so sometimes I'll have 3 or 4 to do in an evening. And because of my work and family schedule I cannot usually start until about 9pm (and I usually get up at 5am).

Had I realized much of this up front, I would have gone with spring-assisted clamps. I also didn't think 5-tooth vs 3-tooth matter much (and if it's just a few racquets a month, then I still think it doesn't). But when doing several in a row, I'm starting to appreciate the "little" things.

Also, it's worth pointing out, for anyone following my posts on the forums, that I am an especially fussy person (I should have taken THAT into account when purchasing!). Most people, to be honest, are probably not as fussy as I am. I sometimes joke that it is my "never-ending quest in life to remain miserable 100% of the time, no matter what my situation is"

Wow 5-8 rackets per week. That's a lot i wish i would get that much business for myself too. Now its starting to make sense why YOU would complain about not having SC mounts. I would assume it does get tedious having to do 3-4 rackets in a row on a non-sophisticated machine with cone lock clamps and non SC mounts. Now i truly understand (or hoping i understand) the position you're in. Hopefully your customers bring you enough income Did you know that you were going to string so much before you bought the machine? How much did you think you were gonna string before you bought the machine? Speaking personally, i think i have come to the decision that i will purchase the Alpha Revo 4k. I got the measurements for the Revo, and i think i've found a perfect place to put it so that its an ideal height.

The reason why i am buying a Revo is that it contains all of the things (except SC mounts) that a lot of the higher end machines have. For example really good clamps (3 toothed and spring assisted). So therefore i wouldn't have to spend money on upgrading. The only thing i may want in the future is to make it eletric and i can do that by buying a wise 2086. That would be the only addition in my opininon that i could make to the machine that will leave me with no regrets.

What i am trying to do, and hopefully you can undertsand what i am getting at is to try to buy everything i need in a machine at the beginning so that i wouldn't have to upgrade (except for electric since buying one at the start is expensive, and the wise is very very good) For example, i wouldn't buy cone lock base clamps EVEN if i tried them and liked them, because maybe in the future i'd realize that i want better (even if theyre working great, because that's what humans are, always wanting more even if things are already easy) and then i'd have to pay 200$ for upgrade of the clamps if not more. You get what i am trying to say? I tried to describe it to the best of my ability.

[David123]

this is why i would never purchase a machine with cone lock, even though ive never tried them or flying clamps. I want fixed clamps, spring assisted and crank. Everything a nice machine should have. Although the Revo doesn't come with a stand, and you may think its something i may regret, i got the measurements from mark and i think i found a table for an ideal height that suits me. Hopefully you can see what i am trying to get at with my decision of buying the perfect machine for me.

[sstchur]

Originally Posted by David123

this is why i would never purchase a machine with cone lock, even though ive never tried them or flying clamps. I want fixed clamps, spring assisted and crank. Everything a nice machine should have. Although the Revo doesn't come with a stand, and you may think its something i may regret, i got the measurements from mark and i think i found a table for an ideal height that suits me. Hopefully you can see what i am trying to get at with my decision of buying the perfect machine for me.

You may very well get it right on your first shot. I hope you do.

I suspect that a lot of people do. I even suspect that 9/10 times I would have also. Like I said, hindsight is 20/20.

[sstchur]

Originally Posted by David123

Wow 5-8 rackets per week. That's a lot i wish i would get that much business for myself too. Now its starting to make sense why YOU would complain about not having SC mounts. I would assume it does get tedious having to do 3-4 rackets in a row on a non-sophisticated machine with cone lock clamps and non SC mounts. Now i truly understand (or hoping i understand) the position you're in. Hopefully your customers bring you enough income Did you know that you were going to string so much before you bought the machine? How much did you think you were gonna string before you bought the machine? Speaking personally, i think i have come to the decision that i will purchase the Alpha Revo 4k. I got the measurements for the Revo, and i think i've found a perfect place to put it so that its an ideal height.

The reason why i am buying a Revo is that it contains all of the things (except SC mounts) that a lot of the higher end machines have. For example really good clamps (3 toothed and spring assisted). So therefore i wouldn't have to spend money on upgrading. The only thing i may want in the future is to make it eletric and i can do that by buying a wise 2086. That would be the only addition in my opininon that i could make to the machine that will leave me with no regrets.

What i am trying to do, and hopefully you can undertsand what i am getting at is to try to buy everything i need in a machine at the beginning so that i wouldn't have to upgrade (except for electric since buying one at the start is expensive, and the wise is very very good) For example, i wouldn't buy cone lock base clamps EVEN if i tried them and liked them, because maybe in the future i'd realize that i want better (even if theyre working great, because that's what humans are, always wanting more even if things are already easy) and then i'd have to pay 200$ for upgrade of the clamps if not more. You get what i am trying to say? I tried to describe it to the best of my ability.

I didn't know I would do this many. And it isn't this many every week. It comes and goes in phases.

I started stringing for a few friends at my club with my SP Swing (so flying clamps, drop weight). I didn't mind. I enjoyed it actually.

I figured the Titan 7700 was a HUGE upgrade over the SP Swing and there was no way I could need more than that (especially since my comparison point was a much lesser machine.)

But I started advertising a bit and word of mouth... how could I have known...

[David123]

hmm i hope I do too. Your machine is still good! I hope your buyers remorse gets removed soon. and you didnt answer some of the questions from the previous post :P

Edit: nvm just refreshed page :P

[David123]

Originally Posted by sstchur

I didn't know I would do this many. And it isn't this many every week. It comes and goes in phases.

I started stringing for a few friends at my club with my SP Swing (so flying clamps, drop weight). I didn't mind. I enjoyed it actually.

I figured the Titan 7700 was a HUGE upgrade over the SP Swing and there was no way I could need more than that (especially since my comparison point was a much lesser machine.)

But I started advertising a bit and word of mouth... how could I have known...

I get what you're getting at. Its difficult. It was especially hard to see from the position you were in, comparing it to the swing. Hopefully you do w/e upgrades you deem necessary to remove the buyers remorse!

[papa]

I have a Eagnas 911 machine and do a moderate amount of stringing - not a huge amount. One of the spring assisted swivel clamp bases is a problem - difficult to adjust and probably needs to be replaced. Suggestions.

[jim e]

Originally Posted by papa

I have a Eagnas 911 machine and do a moderate amount of stringing - not a huge amount. One of the spring assisted swivel clamp bases is a problem - difficult to adjust and probably needs to be replaced. Suggestions.

After a decent amount of time, I'm sure that the springs wear out.
I have a different machine, but it has the spring assisied bases, and I got some extra springs so when they do wear out I would not be down waiting for replacements. You may wish to contact the distributor of your machine and see about parts.

Then again, I string a moderate amount, and still have the original springs,the machine has strung a good # of racquets and they still function properly.But I do have the extra springas as in time I would assume all springs would wear out.

Are you adjusting them properly?
You do know that on many spring assisted base clamps, there is a little plug on the side of the base that you remove, (position the base at a 90 degree angle to the track, and insert the proper size hex wrench to adjust) .You turn clockwise very slightly (approx. a quarter turn or less at a time) , to snug up the adjustment.It should not be difficult to adjust at all.You turn that adjustment screw till when you flip the switch to about the 1/2 way point it holds.You do not want to overtighten it, just enough when you flip the lever to the center point it holds the way it should.

On this video link below it shows on the 28 min-30 min mark on disassembling and adjusting the base clamps on a Babolat machine, which is similar to many base clamps out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpZ7si_J-5s&feature=gv