RPT Spanish Training Model

[10ispro]

Originally Posted by W Cats

Yes, they did leave her in the finished DVD a little embarassing I'd say. I was surprised that they had a player of that caliber at the conference. But I think her question was valid considering information I've read suggesting a 1/2 way recovery on a deep cc exchange.

So getting behind the ball is essentially moving to a position so that you can set up early enough to use an efficient weight transfer/ body rotation?

correct. moving behind the ball is being able to put your foot/feet and body in a position so you can transfer weight and rotate or as Emilio says " so you can do the round thing"

So you have to keep in mind, that they were presenting how the Spanish Train. So would you start training initially by using the modified recovery or would you start training by using a full recovery and then as the player progresses and can use more tactics, then add in the modified situational recovery?
The X drill works on both sides, fairly equally, so it reinforces recovery toward the middle. You can modify it and just work on one V on one side slightly off center and train a different situation as well.
Nothing is really set in stone and they make adjustments as well.

also, players as they progress will usually start making adaptations of their own based on the situation.

I had the unfortunate pleasure of having that woman sit at my table during lunch. She was primarily there in a search for answers bc her kid plays alot of tournaments in Nor Cal or something.
Myself and some other Pros got into a heated debate with her, more like an argument bc she started saying that none of what Emilio and Luis made any sense bc they did not talk much about technique. She became very fixated that bc of a lack of better english words, Emilio said that if he gets a player from France versus other countries that he knows they will have the "right technique". Emilio meant, that they will have a solid foundation of movement and stroke patterns, this lady interpreted technique as purely how to hit the ball. She thinks that there is a "right" and "wrong" way technique.

She went on and on about how her kids new Pro spends majority of her sons lessons talking about racquet work and that its made all the difference but he still isnt getting great results. She saw no correlation between being in the right position and the ability to use the correct racquet work from that point. She views tennis as a game purely involving hitting a ball.

after we had finished eating, myself and the other Pros suddenly had something come up so we had to leave the table....

[tennis_balla]

Well said about the technique 10ispro. There's more to tennis then just making contact with a tennis ball and follow through.

[tennis_balla]

So I put these videos up for people to see some of the training methods coming out of Spain and to learn and expand their knowledge. I know its always risky with copyright issues and seems like I've been nailed. I've encouraged people to buy the DVD, buy other DVD's from USPTA and have never sent anyone a free copy even though I've been asked. I know this thread created interest and we had a good discussion going in the past and people have enjoyed the videos so I'm glad but its over. It seems like the USPTA doesn't like that and I got this warning when I logged into Youtube today.



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[SFrazeur]

"tennis_balla" It's because of your postings on youtube that I decided to buy those DVD and others related to it.

-SF

[tennis_balla]

Thanks man, and I'm sure others did as well but its ok, I understand why the USPTA did that so its cool. Just don't say I never did anything for you guys! haha

[TriFloW]

Just wondering if there is anywhere that I can see these videos I am in the uk and am considering getting them but would like to sample them first is this possible
Thanks in advance
Gary

[Ash_Smith]

Gary

Come to the RPT conference on 8/9th November and speak to the guys there - they should be able to point you in the right direction for resources. The members are on rpteurope.com also has some of the presentations and progressions etc, but you would need to join to see those (it is well worth joining though imo).

Anyway yeah, come to the conference - there's some great speakers this year...

[5263]

Yes, quite interesting that the USPTA was complaining.
Do they sell these Vids?

[Ash_Smith]

^^^I don't believe they sell them as they were (if i'm remembering correctly) filmed from a presentation Luis did at the USPTA conference a couple of years back.

[5263]

Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

^^^I don't believe they sell them as they were (if i'm remembering correctly) filmed from a presentation Luis did at the USPTA conference a couple of years back.

Interesting they are concerned about the promotion of RPT.

[Ash_Smith]

^^^ I'm not sure they were worried about the promotion of the RPT (USPTA and RPT have quite a few link-ups including cross certification). I assume it's more to do with the conference being a USPTA event, which they were charging attendance fees for and therefore not wanting to give away the info for free post event.

[tennis_balla]

Someone posted the whole DVD on YouTube not too long ago. Try and look for it if it hasn't been taken down.

I posted the clips for education purposes but got nailed by the YouTube police anyways, funny enough some posters emailed me to send them the whole DVD but I declined and some like a poster above went out and bought the video from the USPTA site, so I actually made them money.

[5263]

Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

^^^ I'm not sure they were worried about the promotion of the RPT (USPTA and RPT have quite a few link-ups including cross certification). I assume it's more to do with the conference being a USPTA event, which they were charging attendance fees for and therefore not wanting to give away the info for free post event.

makes sense, thanks

[SFrazeur]

Originally Posted by tennis_balla

Someone posted the whole DVD on YouTube not too long ago. Try and look for it if it hasn't been taken down.

I posted the clips for education purposes but got nailed by the YouTube police anyways, funny enough some posters emailed me to send them the whole DVD but I declined and some like a poster above went out and bought the video from the USPTA site, so I actually made them money.

Yeah. I was the one who saw your videos and then bought them from the USPTA proshop. I'm also the guy who emailed the USPTA and reported the youtube videos that were uploaded by someone else last year.

On Court With USPTA:
Spanish Practice Patterns For All-Court Play
Spanish Practice Patterns: Hand-Fed Drills
Are both great dvds with long seminars. Highly recommend!

-SF

[TriFloW]

And I am across the pond can I get these in the UK

thanks
gary

[5263]

Originally Posted by 10ispro

She went on and on about how her kids new Pro spends majority of her sons lessons talking about racquet work and that its made all the difference but he still isnt getting great results. She saw no correlation between being in the right position and the ability to use the correct racquet work from that point. She views tennis as a game purely involving hitting a ball.
...

I tend to think of tennis as a movement and position game, with hitting being a level of
skill you have at the moment.
In the US, it seems most instruction does not get too far past the hitting technique
stage. It's one of the reasons I favor simple technique that is the foundation
for a big upside as feel and timing improve.
It allows you to get to the movement and positioning sooner, where the game is contested.

[tennis_balla]

5263, are you trying to get this thread locked/deleted as well?

[5263]

Originally Posted by tennis_balla

5263, are you trying to get this thread locked/deleted as well?

It's not me that tries to get any thread deleted. My comment was on the best
of behavior, avoiding any names of people or instruction that set whiners off.
Just sticking to the concepts that could be considered important...however
you want to accomplish them.

[tennis_balla]

I was just being sarcastic, I thought the smiley would give it away

[sureshs]

Does the RPT Model have a special section on teaching how to get injured like Nadal?