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Join Date: Aug 2008
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There were no complications at all. I measured and re-measured before I cut, but did it in one rather than a bit at a time. I was surprised how easy it was actually, I thought graphite would put up more of a fight! Unlike user92626, I didn't use any glue: my new pallets are held in place with double-sided tape, and the butt cap is secured with a staple gun. |
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Semi-Pro
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SC
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Ross, glad to see you actually started this thread. Now I have some place to post my racquet ramblings other than the old YT Rad Pro review thread.
My racquet collection keeps growing, as does my indecision as to what racquet I will ultimately choose. My current options range from my old trusty MG Rad OS, to the sampling of the YT Rad Pro, YT Prestige Pro, APDGT, and APDC. I thought I had narrowed the choice to the APDGT. But after the last two weeks, I just don't know. |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Samsara
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My aim in shortening my iPrestige mp XL Now if I could just find a way to get the damn staples out w/out destroying the butt cap And I want to give a special thanx to Ross for very graciously not getting annoyed w my thread jacking
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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BTW, it's all a bit confusing with me at present as the 2 frames I'm into are quite different and there are a few other imponderables at present (like strings, tensions, customization, etc.) Being a no good, lowdown racketaholic too Cheers Hit... feel free to post your racketaholic ramblings in here mate! R. |
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Semi-Pro
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SC
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My feelings on the APDGT are good. It is a nice racquet and does a lot of things well. It volleys nicely assuming you use good technique and set up for it. It excells in defensive play as I found when I was really stretched or jammed, I could block the ball back with both pace and depth to keep points neutral. Serves nicely with good pace and spin. Baseline rallys are fun as you can generate loads of spin off both wings. You can really go after your groundies. And it seemed to swing easier than the YT Rad Pro, which I was directly comparing it with for the last couple weeks. So a lot of positives. However -- and there always seems to be a however -- as I mentioned in the other thread I just can't quite generate that big heavy ball like I can with the YT Rad Pro. This is not to say I can't hit solid topspin with the APDGT, because I can. It is just that the Rad Pro generates a more penetrating heavy shot, which I attribute to the high SW. One of my hitting partners described it like this: With the APDGT the ball had tons of spin but seemed to sit up more when it would bounce. So the ball gets out of the strike zone fast unless you take the ball early. Great for baseline rallys. But you really have to swing out to create that penetrating forcing shot. My backhand had less pace as well, but was solid. With the YT Rad Pro, the ball also had tons of spin but the ball wouldn't sit up as much. The heavy topspin would take the ball into the opponent. I suppose the best way to describe it is the ball jumps at the opponent more than jumping up from the spin. My 2HBH also had more pace. As I mentioned, I think it is a function of the big SW of the Rad Pro and it is that same swing weight that can make me late -- as PED has mentioned as well -- when I face a flat hard hitter. The Rad Pro has better feel as well, which I believe is because of the flex of the frame. I also found one other area that caused me some problems with the APDGT this last match, which has got me thinking I need to add a little weight to it. My opponent started pushing soft low skidding shots in around the service line after loosing a good number of points trying to rally from the baseline. It was a smart move. I found I had a lot of trouble hitting an offensive top spin return off these low skidding no pace balls. My shots were going long, so I had to resort to defensive slice returns - a lot of which were floating high enough that I was getting eat up by swinging volleys on my opponent's next ball. I switched over to the Rad Pro at a change over and it fixed the problem. Since they were slow paced shots, there was no problem setting up and the extra swing weight of the Rad Pro allowed me to hit very offensive topspin drives. So I ended up having to switch racquets to fit the game style of my opponent. Not something I really want to do because it takes a little bit to adjust my swing for the different specs. I figured that a little extra weight on the APDGT would potentially give me the best of both worlds, and I plan to try it. I plan to add a little lead on the handle first to see if that does the trick. But then Fed Kennedy started telling us about the YT Extreme Pro, and well I caved. Looks like I am adding another stick to the collection. Last edited by HitItHarder : 09-14-2010 at 11:00 AM. |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Ha, ha - it's all Fed's fault!... I blame him totally Hit, my man, I agree with so much of your interesting post though... shall reply later as I'm meant to be working. Regards, R. BTW, PED is the man when it comes to customizing - maybe he'll chime in... |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: With Roger
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Yes! Welcome to the dark side. You will soon find out the power of the dark side.... What are you stringing it with?
As I said this racquet kind of splits the difference between a radical pro (heft) and apd (spin). To me it feels like a 6.1 for dummies, solid stable and powerful, but some nice forgiveness, which I really appreciate. Also, I can flatten the ball much easier than I can with other tweener type sticks. Added bonus: no lead tape shenanigans to drive me nuts.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SC
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I typically use full poly. I have a couple different reels, but Turbotwist 1.18 is my favorite. I usually string in the low to mid-50s. When the YT Extreme Pro comes in I will string it up the same. And I agree about the lead. If I could find a stick that I like stock, it would make things so much easier. That was the main reason I thought I would give the Extreme a shot. |
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Legend
Join Date: Dec 2006
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The great lead tape debate re the Aeropro is a royal pain in the derrière, no doubt at all... I'm soon to follow PED's advice and try the lead fishing weights method (have just today found somewhere not too far that sells them)... anyhow, my instinct is the frame needs a bit of firming up and general assistance... and basically, I agree with so much of what you say about the Aeropro, though for me, the jury is still out on precisely the kind of deep, penetrating ball I can or cannot hit with it... I've just had it sent to my stringer (Solinco Tour Bite @ about 52 - haven't decided tension yet tbh)... anyhow, that should help my assessment. The YT Rad Pro was a frame I really wanted to like, but in the end I found it carried a bit too much weight in the hoop. I also suffered a bad TE-type injury at the time of using, and though I put that down to what I was doing just prior to hitting with the RP, I'll never forget that discomfort of trying to serve with this frame... scary shoulder/upper arm pains... the more head-light balance than I was accustomed to contributed to my troubles I think... I wasn't quite sure about that YT tech feel either... the pros though of this frame were that it hit a MASSIVE b-line topspin kaboomer!... my 2hbh was STELLA AWESOME with it... and, as you say, it has surprisingly good touch and feel. Funnily enough, like has been the case so many times with me, I think I'd get on with it a whole lot better now than when I tried it out... but I shipped this one out at the start of the summer. The EP is a frame that appeals to me for precisely the reasons stated... starting with my old PD+, I've always enjoyed hitting the kind of ball that a frame like this is made for, but I've only lately decided to really embrace that and start prioritizing this aspect... Qsn. Have you ever hit with the PSTGT? I ask because, for me, it indeed booms out a heavy, penetrating, solid, nasty ball,,, the feel is like the old Pure Controls... pretty lush actually... packs a lot of punch... a bit flatter in trajectory and certainly easier to find that flat nailer... a bit more all court... anyway, I'm due a match tomorrow (good opponent btw, which should help me get an enhanced impression of this still new to me frame), and I'm thinking of looking at this frame, and this frame only... er, though I'm sorely tempted to bring along that old PD+ of mine for a few games also... doh! |
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Semi-Pro
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SC
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So what are your thoughts on the the YTPP compared with the PSTGT. That may go a long way in telling me what I might think of the PSTGT. |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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A better idea now of what the PSTGT+ is about following long session against player who put me through it, and had me huffing and puffing like someone who smoked for years and was never shy when it came to entering a pub (er, yes, that would me!
Some random thoughts: String-bed feel - hard to describe, but I love it... lush, crisp, bitey... Build - solid, solid, solid... and high quality build too imo, no complaints. Touch and feel - unlike a lot of these Babs and similar racks, this has really decent touch and feel... Power - there on tap, but in controllable form... Spin - to a pretty high level B-line performance-very responsive, great depth, def hits heavy ball)... Serve - lots of rangey power, good action, but I'm not dialed in yet... Volleying etc - very solid, penetrating, powerful... Maneuverability (which is connected to balance/weighting/additional length) - got on with it better but... and this is my big concern... wondering if, like other frames I know (Rd Pro, Rd7, PT630, PSC 6.1) it's just a tad too weighty for me to really get smooth and comfortable with at a higher level of play. FH - Always the quickest shot for me to groove with for some reason - with this rack I'm comfortable on the fh side, consistent and solid, if not yet accessing the full and punishing capabilities of the frame... 2HBH - I was not only comfy with it's heavy, spinny, controlled performance, but at the end of the match I did find that extra oomph and whatever it is that helps you to nail and kill off points... The XL factor - that added . 5 " can seem a bit unwieldy, and a few times yesterday, when I was twisting for a ball behind me, I was instantly dead in the water. The obvious temptation of course is to remove the extra length. But the trade off is in when running into low scoopers or short balls, making angles, and, in different respects, when it comes to volleying, serving and fh and 2hbh. I'm giving this one some time boys. The frame is simply too good for me to not pay it a lot more attention. I do fear an influx of frames in through my front door (quite how these things happen I just don't know... oh yeah, blame Fed! R. |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Hit it Harder I think you will freak out when you try the Tfight. I have read a lot of your posts and think I have an idea of what will work for you.
Ross, I asked in another thread, but this is a better place for it. What did you not like about the 320 v02? I want to say stiffness maybe? I have gone back to mine after having to go lighter from my 4d200. It is probably the closest to the holy grail as I have gotten when it comes to a stick that is perfectly suited for the modern game of power and control. Only negative is it eats strings, but now that I have a string machine, I have made peace with that.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SC
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Have you hit with the YTPP? How does it compare to the Tflight 320? Hopefully, my YT Extreme Pro will come in tomorrow so I can take it out for a hit this weekend. Otherwise, I may have to wait until Tuesday to take it out for a spin and post up my thoughts. |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Prestiges are real advanced sticks for all court players that hit flatter balls. The Tfight is basically a superior version of the K95 because it is lighter and easier to manuever. The Extreme pro is very similar to an APDGT, just a little heavier. The extreme pro is an easier racquet to use compared to the 320. But the 320 is not going to make you work hard for power either. You just need to have developed strokes. I was using too much arm when I first bought the 320 over a year back. Now that I am consistently hitting with my entire torso and using proper form, it is a very easy stick to play with.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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I've owned both and much prefer the ytpp. It's easier to use over a longer session in the heat when the pst will tire you out with it's heavier sw. The ytpp also changes gears better-the pst is nice in a steady rally but the ytpp is better at stepping up and ripping that nasty approach shot or putaway over the PST. I also think the control is better. Serve is nicer too on the ytpp, the lighter SW will let you get some nice tip speed and it's great for spin and placement any where you want in the box. The ytpp is quite finicky on strings as well: I loved all the Genesis products in there but didn't care for Luxilon. The irony is that I love Lux in most all sticks. Given your description of your dislikes of the ytpp, I would steer away from the pst. Great stick but the ytpp is easier to use IMO
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Slice - My poorest shot usually is my 1hbh slice, but with the PSTGT+, from the first hit, it has reminded me of a jab!... seriously... it's just so firm and solid and hefty... a great wallop... yes, whenever I do it that image of a jab in boxing comes to mind... a thudding, walloping great jab... don't know if you guys are into boxing, but think of these 2 goats!... it's sort of like a jab from Duran or Ray Leonard ![]() R. |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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[quote=Ross K;5062814].. it's sort of like a jab from Duran or Ray Leonard
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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PED,
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Back to tennis!... Everyone, I played again this morning (again just the PSTGT+ on its own), and, not surprisingly, am beginning to feel more dialed in generally and am getting a better feel for it (really worked on getting the racket back early)... served some aces, some flat bombers, which is great; my 2hbh is now turning into a weapon; and as re feel, I'm very happy... if this keeps up I might find it very hard to quit with this rack... will say I want to be able to swing smoother/easier (though today was an advance), and I'd like to get a more pronounced whippy, Western gripper-kind of b-line peppering fh (a bit more like the APD produces)... Power Player, Re your TF V02 320 qsn earlier, I found it a bit stiff, not quite for me re build feel, and it was overpowered, plus I didn't quite gel with its balance... all of which, in a slightly ridiculous, fickle manner, I'd probably cheerfully ignore now because it has many attributes I'm presently kind of looking for. R. |
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Semi-Pro
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I am putting a fresh set of strings in both racquets tonight and should get a pretty extended hit around on Sunday with a practice match as well. I will post up my thoughts on Monday. Once I decide between those two, I will do another play test against my APDGT. HIH |
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Legend
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Really look forward to hearing your thoughts on the YTEP, and how it contrasts with the APDGT. BTW, coincidentally... "Clears throat."... I should be hitting with the MGEP next week, as well as a AG4D200 Tour (been on my 'to demo' list for ages and ages and I've finally got the chance.) And just to top it off, I'll also be taking a look at the YT Pres Pro in the near future (my no. 1 'to demo' frame for months has suddenly turned up.) Oh brother... it's about to be raining rackets here - LOL! Final little thought of the night here that I'm pondering re my recent hits with the APD and PSTGT+... when I ask myself just what the Aeropro might have over the generally pretty awesome PSTGT+, here's the answer... on the fh, with the APD, I can really line up very smoothly and tee off and find the ball, and absolutely whip into it, wind/wipe the hell out the ball, and access big, big, baseline-peppering topspin, etc. For some reason, I've had this on my mind a bit today following the morning session... hmm... R. |
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