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Old 09-20-2010, 02:13 PM   #221
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That depends on where your PS 6.0 85 was made and also which specific PS 6.0 85 and K90 you're swinging as Wilson's poor quality control means you can find anything you want if you look hard enough.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:49 PM   #222
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Can anyone do a full recap of the stats posted here on the fed rackets?? I would, but I have a lot of homework... Thank You!
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:12 PM   #223
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If it's one layer then it's between 3 and 5 grams. P1 has written on these boards that the lead is there to match the frames. If these are "retail" (but hand-chosen) US K90s then the total swingweight would end up around 350, which is what the poster Art Art has reported several times for Fed's sticks measured at tournaments.

One would think that a USK90 + 3-5 grams of lead, + heavy strings (gut + lux = 17 grams) + overgrip + stringsavers&powerpads would total more than 364 grams, but remember that these are hand-chosen frames and might be selected for being a little lighter than average. P1's custom handles might be lighter weight than stock PU handles as well.
I'm not questioning the weight, just Edberg make it seem like there's a lot of lead on the head, which isn't true like you said. they are just there to match to specs of older racquets. And if Sampras can swing a PS85 with 3-4 layers of lead at 3 and 9, I'm sure Fed have no problem swinging a 6.1 90 with a few grams of lead.
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:54 PM   #224
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The strings don't look right. Were they restrung before auction?
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:57 PM   #225
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The strings don't look right. Were they restrung before auction?
why dont they look right ? there is wear on the stencil, cant see anything wrong here
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:59 PM   #226
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I just thought that Roger used a Lux/Gut set-up, but these racquets look like they're just strung with NXT or something. Maybe it's the photo, or maybe it's the beer I'm drinking...
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People have been asking Wilson and TW for years to try and get Wilson to make more PS 6.0 85's and PS 6.0 95's to no avail.

Both are great racquets which have no direct replacements, despite what Wilson may think. The thing is, I think you can still buy both racquets in Japan.
Do you have a source in Japan?

By the way I just bought a St Vincent yesterday from a nice fellow in Cali who said he has over 50 Pro Staff 85's!

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I just thought that Roger used a Lux/Gut set-up, but these racquets look like they're just strung with NXT or something. Maybe it's the photo, or maybe it's the beer I'm drinking...
Sir, can you please put the beer down and back slowly away, keep your hands where I can see them.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:55 AM   #229
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Do you have a source in Japan?

By the way I just bought a St Vincent yesterday from a nice fellow in Cali who said he has over 50 Pro Staff 85's!
Sorry but I don't. Do a search on the Yahoo Japan website. There are many dealers in Japan that will probably ship overseas.
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:40 PM   #230
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Greg Raven has his frame and the balance was 31.5, with a 362.5g weight and a 338 SW. If I'm willing to trust anybody it's the guy who is a pro stringer and has a picture of Fed's K6.1 with the little "ROGER" sticker above the grip and the powerpads
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I've never really been interested in Federer's exact racquet specs, so this is all quite new to me, but now my friend has one of his racquets (earlier in this thread Ron confirmed he strung that racquet), I am taking an interest

Greg's specs look like they may be about right to me, but if they are then surely Art Art's (balance 31.8, weight 364g, SW 355) are wrong. I don't see how they can both be right, as they have similar balance and weight but SW is totally different!

My friends Federer racquet has a balance of 32.1cm, but I don't know weight or SW yet. I will try and find out, although it may take a while.
I still don't see how Greg and ArtArt can both be right. Nobody has explained how with a weight of about 364g, the SW can be 355 on such a HL racquet?

My friend can't weigh his racquet (no scales, but it's probably about 364g anyway) and can't measure SW. However he has checked under grommets/bumper at top of racquet and there is one layer of very thin lead across the top 10 grommets (on both sides), about 5" or 12cm each side, which I guess would only be about 3g in weight. He also carefully looked under overgrip, and it is a P1 leather grip underneath not Wilson!

So along with balance of 32.1cm, that's all the info I can get on this Federer K90 racquet. Am looking forward to seeing balance of Fabfeds 4 racquets.

Thanks in advance Fabfed, and I hope you enjoy the Grand Prix
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Retail is the top photo ... That's my photo of my frame bottom one is from priority 1
Hi, sorry I didn't give you credit for the photo!

Well spotted by the way, and this along with throat specs on opposite red/black; either shows that Federer had very early different version of the retail BLX90 as a hairpin for his racquets this year. Or more likely, I reckon it is a retail/custom K90 under that BLX paintjob.

However, whatever these specs show, we will never know for sure until someone cuts up one of Federer's racquets to compare to retail racquet, and I don't think that will ever happen. So effectively it will remain a mystery and just be speculation!
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I still don't see how Greg and ArtArt can both be right. Nobody has explained how with a weight of about 364g, the SW can be 355 on such a HL racquet?

My friend can't weigh his racquet (no scales, but it's probably about 364g anyway) and can't measure SW. However he has checked under grommets/bumper at top of racquet and there is one layer of very thin lead across the top 10 grommets (on both sides), about 5" or 12cm each side, which I guess would only be about 3g in weight. He also carefully looked under overgrip, and it is a P1 leather grip underneath not Wilson!

So along with balance of 32.1cm, that's all the info I can get on this Federer K90 racquet. Am looking forward to seeing balance of Fabfeds 4 racquets.

Thanks in advance Fabfed, and I hope you enjoy the Grand Prix
Hey jimbo, thanks. Wow, very brave of your friend to look both under the bumper and overgrip I should be getting the balance board by tomorrow, so I'll get the racquets measured soon.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:06 PM   #233
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And have you gotten a chance to measure the grip Fabfed? Well, whenever you do, just make sure to do it 3-4 inches from the butt cap.
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And have you gotten a chance to measure the grip Fabfed? Well, whenever you do, just make sure to do it 3-4 inches from the butt cap.
Yep, will do it together with the balance, no worries I will measure at the centre of the grip.
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Jimbo, it is possible to have a 364g racquet with a 31.7 balance and a 355 SW but you would have to have most of the weight of the frame at the very top and at the very bottom.
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:04 AM   #236
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Sorry BP, but as I have pointed out, the moulds for BLX and K are different. As shown by the difference in the shape and with of the dent for the bumper.
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Can anyone tell me what's the difference between a normal L3 grip and Fed's L3 grip handle? (applies to all pros who custom their handle). They look the same to me....
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Sorry BP, but as I have pointed out, the moulds for BLX and K are different. As shown by the difference in the shape and with of the dent for the bumper.
I'm pretty sure BP has been inside one of Wilson's racquet Layup rooms in Evanston, IL and measured the mould and compared it to various frames while he was there.

I trust hes right and you're confused.

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I'm pretty sure BP has been inside one of Wilson's racquet Layup rooms in Evanston, IL and measured the mould and compared it to various frames while he was there.

I trust hes right and you're confused.

The measures might be the same, but there is a difference as you can check for yourself if you care to. But it might not be of big significance.
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The measures might be the same, but there is a difference as you can check for yourself if you care to. But it might not be of big significance.
I was joking dude.

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