Kuerten with yt Radical MP

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Early on in the Max200G production Light, Light Medium, and Medium were available. Shortly after only Light was available.

when did they first come out? I began using them in 1985ish (late Fall) if I recall. I guess then at the time I was not able to have a choice.

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

when did they first come out? I began using them in 1985ish (late Fall) if I recall. I guess then at the time I was not able to have a choice.

The Max200G came out in 1982.

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

The Max200G came out in 1982.

I did find some information and indeed they had been in 3 weight versions. now I am going to be on the lookout for a lighter version. Do you happen to know what sticker code i should look for?

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

I did find some information and indeed they had been in 3 weight versions. now I am going to be on the lookout for a lighter version. Do you happen to know what sticker code i should look for?

Light or "L".

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Light or "L".

I will check my 200g that I have. any chance all the racquets after were L versions?

[Big John]

Ok, trying to summarise all of this.. From my small experience with tgk frames, they may well come from the same mold as the retail racquets (but may not), are often made from lighter materials to come out lighter than the retail to allow them to be siliconed and leaded up to exactly what the player needs (makes a substantial difference from what I can see) and they can flex differently (amount of flex and places they flex) than the retail and this may be increased when they are weighted up?

Obviously there are a large number of longer TGK's around too, clearly going to play very differently from the retail. Extending retail racquets often makes them too heavy for many recreational players to use from my experience.

Currently using tgk 238.1's and pro stock flexpoint prestige paintjobs that come out much lighter than the retail and when leaded up at 12 play completely differently than the retail at a lighter overall weight but with much more head heavy balance.

Have I got this right please?

[LPShanet]

Mysterious double post. Sorry guys.

[LPShanet]

Originally Posted by Big John

Ok, trying to summarise all of this.. From my small experience with tgk frames, they may well come from the same mold as the retail racquets (but may not), are often made from lighter materials to come out lighter than the retail to allow them to be siliconed and leaded up to exactly what the player needs (makes a substantial difference from what I can see) and they can flex differently (amount of flex and places they flex) than the retail and this may be increased when they are weighted up?

Obviously there are a large number of longer TGK's around too, clearly going to play very differently from the retail. Extending retail racquets often makes them too heavy for many recreational players to use from my experience.

Currently using tgk 238.1's and pro stock flexpoint prestige paintjobs that come out much lighter than the retail and when leaded up at 12 play completely differently than the retail at a lighter overall weight but with much more head heavy balance.

Have I got this right please?

Most of your info is basically correct. However, you've got the analysis a little bit wrong with respect to extended length versions. First off, they aren't really "extended", they simply cut them off longer when finishing the frames, as the racquet comes off the line much longer than stock, and they then choose what length they want it to be. More importantly, extended frames aren't much heavier at all then standard length, since the amount of added material is minimal. However, the added length does affect the balance, flex and swingweight, so they do have a different feel, and may seem harder to get around. However, with a little adjustment period, there is absolutely no reason why most recreational players couldn't get used to them...it's not that big a deal, it's more of a matter of preference, and whether the added length will give the particular person any benefit.

[JT_2eighty]

This thread is full of so much awesomeness, I can't begin to describe.

Thank you all for brightening up my rainy afternoon!

Needs more high-rez pics too.

[marosmith]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Sure they can. They can go out and buy a YT Radical MP and if they know Guga's spec customize it to match his frame.

so are you saying TGK rackets have youtek, or microgel, or liquidmetal technology? my understanding is not only are they lighter, but have a different weight distribution, and are all graphite/filler but no D30 etc...

If that is the case, how can you say they are the same as retail? Just the mold and drill pattern are the same.

[Doubles]

Originally Posted by marosmith

so are you saying TGK rackets have youtek, or microgel, or liquidmetal technology? my understanding is not only are they lighter, but have a different weight distribution, and are all graphite/filler but no D30 etc...

If that is the case, how can you say they are the same as retail? Just the mold and drill pattern are the same.

The mold, drill pattern, and flex are the same. As far as I'm concerned it's the same racket. There is nothing special about using a TGK other than that you are able to better customize it to your liking. Personally I think that the Radical is light enough to allow you to do so, without buying a $299 racket...

[marosmith]

Originally Posted by Doubles

The mold, drill pattern, and flex are the same. As far as I'm concerned it's the same racket. There is nothing special about using a TGK other than that you are able to better customize it to your liking. Personally I think that the Radical is light enough to allow you to do so, without buying a $299 racket...

You think the flex is the same? There is a thread somewhere showing the TGK had different levels of stiffness from the RDC machine testing and some models specifically are the same mold but softer or stiffer for example.

[marosmith]

Originally Posted by Doubles

The mold, drill pattern, and flex are the same. As far as I'm concerned it's the same racket. There is nothing special about using a TGK other than that you are able to better customize it to your liking. Personally I think that the Radical is light enough to allow you to do so, without buying a $299 racket...

But you didn't answer the question about what the composition of the racket is.

[pug]

At this point in his career I would not be surprised at all if it was a stock racquet weighted to his liking.