Human Racket Poll

[HunterST]

Originally Posted by dozu

name 1 troll, who's willing to put his annual income on the line, to win 2 matches in a 4.5 tournament.

Trolling = Intentionally starting or escalating conflict. It has nothing to do with posting your income or a video. I mean just look at all the threads in which you're involved in an argument. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if you got banned.

[jester911]

Well at least there is some good news. According to the poll we have found the solution to global warming.

[Avles]

I guess the "human racquet" could be a helpful metaphor if applied properly-- i.e. in moderation, and with an eye for actual assistance rather than self-promotion. Maybe imagining the arm and racquet as one big unit swung by the legs/core could help some people.

But honestly, to me it just seems like a different way of saying "don't arm the ball." I don't see what the big deal is.

[HunterST]

Originally Posted by jester911

Well at least there is some good news. According to the poll we have found the solution to global warming.

ahahahahaha

[dozu]

Originally Posted by HunterST

Trolling = Intentionally starting or escalating conflict. It has nothing to do with posting your income or a video. I mean just look at all the threads in which you're involved in an argument. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if you got banned.

define 'conflict'.

to D4L's point... this stuff is all in your (or any reader's) mind.... a post can be perceived as a conflict escalator, or just a joke.

and here is an interesting question - would it be a smart business decision, for dozu to get banned.

[dozu]

Originally Posted by jester911

Well at least there is some good news. According to the poll we have found the solution to global warming.

well, currently it's standing at slightly below my 30% expectation, which aint terrible.

[dozu]

Originally Posted by Avles

I guess the "human racquet" could be a helpful metaphor if applied properly-- i.e. in moderation, and with an eye for actual assistance rather than self-promotion. Maybe imagining the arm and racquet as one big unit swung by the legs/core could help some people.

But honestly, to me it just seems like a different way of saying "don't arm the ball." I don't see what the big deal is.

you are exactly right, it is not a break-thru in tennis teaching or anything.... it's just a visual to teach the samething that everybody teaches.

[dozu]

Originally Posted by HunterST

ahahahahaha

now you are happy.

[HunterST]

Originally Posted by dozu

define 'conflict'.

to D4L's point... this stuff is all in your (or any reader's) mind.... a post can be perceived as a conflict escalator, or just a joke.

and here is an interesting question - would it be a smart business decision, for dozu to get banned.

[jester911]

Originally Posted by dozu

well, currently it's standing at slightly below my 30% expectation, which aint terrible.

10% is slight? I had no idea.

[Avles]

Originally Posted by dozu

you are exactly right, it is not a break-thru in tennis teaching or anything.... it's just a visual to teach the samething that everybody teaches.

Ok-- but I see a couple potential issues with it from a teaching perspective:

1. The term is cryptic--so you have to explain it every time you use it. Something like "Serve up the mountain" is relatively intuitive and self-explanatory. "Human racquet" sounds like mumbo-jumbo.

2. We aren't used to thinking of our body parts as being passive burdens that we have to manipulate--when I move my hand, I perceive that as moving my hand, not as using my arm muscles to move a passive hand. So imagining that I am swinging a 10-pound racquet-arm combo doesn't really click for me.

But hey, maybe I'll give it a try next time I hit. It can't possibly make my forehand any worse.

[tennisnoob3]

Originally Posted by HunterST

Hahaha, love how you're now making the standard of success so low that it's virtually impossible not to achieve.

At least this has gotten the discussion back to tennis and not how good or bad Dozu is.

yeah, seriously? a lack of "no" as a choice?

[dozu]

Originally Posted by Avles

Ok-- but I see a couple potential issues with it from a teaching perspective:

1. The term is cryptic--so you have to explain it every time you use it. Something like "Serve up the mountain" is relatively intuitive and self-explanatory. "Human racquet" sounds like mumbo-jumbo.

2. We aren't used to thinking of our body parts as being passive burdens that we have to manipulate--when I move my hand, I perceive that as moving my hand, not as using my arm muscles to move a passive hand. So imagining that I am swinging a 10-pound racquet-arm combo doesn't really click for me.

But hey, maybe I'll give it a try next time I hit. It can't possibly make my forehand any worse.

that's fair, when I teach the concept, I have never used the term 'human racket' lolol.... I usually just say the 'arm+racket unit'.

[dozu]

Originally Posted by tennisnoob3

yeah, seriously? a lack of "no" as a choice?

so you are a believer of global warming then... lol.

[jester911]

"Unit turn" has been the term I have always heard and it is a much better visual than human racket. The point is lost if the ball touches the human.

[arche3]

^^^^^^^troll....

Originally Posted by dozu

name 1 troll, who's willing to put his annual income on the line, to win 2 matches in a 4.5 tournament

also - 'being funny' is something that comes naturally... it cannot be 'tried'

[Sreeram]

Originally Posted by jester911

The point is lost if the ball touches the human.

Nope you can use any part of your body to put the ball in.

[jester911]

Originally Posted by Sreeram

Nope you can use any part of your body to put the ball in.

That is incorrect. The ball must contact the racket. If it even touches your clothing the point is over.

[dozu]

putting a wrap on this thing -

Hunter and Jonny, are you happy now? 17.xx% approval rating..... although I didn't expect it to go over 50%, but 17% is lower than I thought.

OTOH, 'human racket' is just a different way to say 'keep your arm passive', which is a widely accepted concept.

I think 17% is a reflection that most tennis players are still arming the ball, and have never felt what it's like to hit with a passive arm.

In any case, the collective wisdom says 17%, 17% it is.

thx for voting.

[jester911]

I can't see 17% as any reflection at all how the voters swing the racket. It has much more to do with the poll itself.

I didn't vote for human racket because it does not evoke any real visualization of unit turn in my mind. Trust me when I say that I have much more than just arm swing in my strokes.