VS Gut mains and poly crosses - Page 3

Lambsscroll · 05-17-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by parasailing

Guess no one has feedback on Scorpion but just another update on my VS Team mains and WC Silverstring. I initially review this string and didn't really think WC SS was anything special. But after 12 hours hitting with this racquet, it now has soften up to the point where it feels really nice. The SS does not notch into the gut mains and has made them last considerably longer than if using a full bed of natural gut.

I did not even put string savers on this particular racquet and the strings show no significant signs of fraying. So the only downside for me about WC SS is the substantial break in time before SS softens up as tension maintenance is still good even after 12 hours of hitting.

Sounds like I'll be trying WC Silverstring. The Poly Nova 17 I use in the cross seems to work well but I think SS wont saw through the gut as much.

GlenK · 05-17-2011, 09:49 AM

I have not used the Scorpion yet with the VS. I used it in a full bed while searching for a new set up. It was my favorite full bed poly.
Now when SS runs out, I'll switch to Scoprion. It was very similar to SS in full bed so I'm thinking it will be equally as good for x's.

We'll see, fingers are crossed...

dadozen · 05-17-2011, 10:49 AM

I have used VS Team / Scorpion 1.22 for a while and it was a great setup. I just gave up on this because the cost was too high for me.

parasailing · 05-17-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dadozen

I have used VS Team / Scorpion 1.22 for a while and it was a great setup. I just gave up on this because the cost was too high for me.

What was you tension for the VS mains and scorpion crosses?

Bahama Scott · 05-17-2011, 02:04 PM

Parasailing, my setup is Aeropro Drive Cortex Scorpion 1.22 48lbs X VS 17 52lbs. It took a couple of hours to break in and I now have about 15 hours and it is just great....spin, power, control, love the feel but that's my deal. On my next setup I am going to drop both tensions down 2 pounds but next time I am going to use the WT 1.2

mctennis · 05-17-2011, 03:24 PM

I use that at 59/57. It took me about an hour or less to break this string set in.

Bahama Scott · 05-17-2011, 03:33 PM

I originally strung it at 54/58. It was really unbelievable for about 10 hours BUT then the tension fell off dramatically and it took a lot of adjusting to compensate for the extra power. Weiss STRONGLY recommends 52 pounds max. At my current tension, it wasn't quite as remarkable at first (still better than anything else including full VS gut) but I have not noticed any real degradation in the performance so far.

TennisCJC · 05-18-2011, 06:18 AM

Bab Tonic + Ball Feel is significantly less $ than VS and it plays great. Tension would vary based on your racket but I would try the gut at 55 and poly's at 51 to start with. Try the to keep the poly tension in the 52 or less range if possible as it's way better for the arm and last longer.

dadozen · 05-18-2011, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by parasailing

What was you tension for the VS mains and scorpion crosses?

Para, I was using 52/49. When I raised the tension to 56/53, the stringjob broke in less than 2h.

I was going to try something like 48/44, but then I decided to go with full polys.

parasailing · 05-18-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dadozen

Para, I was using 52/49. When I raised the tension to 56/53, the stringjob broke in less than 2h.

I was going to try something like 48/44, but then I decided to go with full polys.

Which string broke, the main or the cross?

parasailing · 05-26-2011, 04:28 PM

My VS Team/WC SS have now logged over 20 hours and it plays great. I know there has been tension loss in the SS crosses but it is still very comfortable and still plays fine. I do notice one of the mains starting to fray and looks like I might be get a couple hours more before they snap.

TimothyO · 05-26-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by parasailing

My VS Team/WC SS have now logged over 20 hours and it plays great. I know there has been tension loss in the SS crosses but it is still very comfortable and still plays fine. I do notice one of the mains starting to fray and looks like I might be get a couple hours more before they snap.

What's the frame and tension?

I have a Speed MP 18x20 inbound from TW* and am considering Team instead of my usual Touch mains. I used Team once back in the fall and that was my only experience.

*technically it arrived but warped/bent. It was so severe I noticed it the moment I took it out of the bag! Sent back for exchange. Their pickers/packers must work fast to have missed it. Or can. frame warp in shipping?

parasailing · 05-26-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TimothyO

What's the frame and tension?

I have a Speed MP 18x20 inbound from TW* and am considering Team instead of my usual Touch mains. I used Team once back in the fall and that was my only experience.

*technically it arrived but warped/bent. It was so severe I noticed it the moment I took it out of the bag! Sent back for exchange. Their pickers/packers must work fast to have missed it. Or can. frame warp in shipping?

I use a Babolat Pure Storm Tour GT strung at 56lbs on VS mains and 52lbs on WC SS. The first few hours I didn't like the feel or the playability but as the tension settle in and probably the WC SS soften up, it started to play better. I have about 22 hours on the racquet and notice significant amount of fraying. I think it's time for me to start putting string savers on there to see if I can perserve it a little longer.

parasailing · 05-30-2011, 09:56 PM

I put in an order for VS Team 17 BT7 technology so I will post back when I get a chance to compare it against non BT7 strings. I will be using Scorpion as the cross for both and we shall see how they play.

dadozen · 05-31-2011, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by parasailing

Which string broke, the main or the cross?

Para, the gut broke in 2 stringjobs in less than 2h. Actually, it was something like 1h15. It was way faster than the stringjobs @ 52/49.

ben123 · 05-31-2011, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by parasailing

I put in an order for VS Team 17 BT7 technology so I will post back when I get a chance to compare it against non BT7 strings. I will be using Scorpion as the cross for both and we shall see how they play.

good to hear im awaiting ur results

quest01 · 05-31-2011, 05:36 AM

My current setup on my BLX90's are Wilson Champions Choice hybrid with Wilson Natural gut 16g in the mains and Luxilon ALU Rough 16L in the crosses.

kiteboard · 05-31-2011, 06:25 AM

I have pt57a and h22 strung with vs team mains/silver string, scorpion, nrg2, x1 biphase. I like the vs team/nrg2 the most, and the scorpion has the most power, but the nrg2 cross the most control.

parasailing · 05-31-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kiteboard

I have pt57a and h22 strung with vs team mains/silver string, scorpion, nrg2, x1 biphase. I like the vs team/nrg2 the most, and the scorpion has the most power, but the nrg2 cross the most control.

Which cross lasted the longest? My current setup of vs team mains and sliverstring crosses has lasted me an amazing 22 hours of play. This is better than using a full set of natural gut which lasts me on average about 8 to 10 hours. I do notice that the silverstring is pretty much dead but the vs mains are still playing well though significant fraying is starting to occur.

TimothyO · 06-01-2011, 06:18 AM

How can you tell the poly crosses specifically are dead?

05-17-2011, 09:49 AM	#42
GlenK Semi-Pro Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 596	I have not used the Scorpion yet with the VS. I used it in a full bed while searching for a new set up. It was my favorite full bed poly. Now when SS runs out, I'll switch to Scoprion. It was very similar to SS in full bed so I'm thinking it will be equally as good for x's. We'll see, fingers are crossed... __________________ Head YouTek Prestige MP (18x20) - Wilson Nat Gut 17/MSV Co-Focus 1.18 (55/54) - Gamma X-Els

05-17-2011, 10:49 AM	#43
dadozen Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,624	I have used VS Team / Scorpion 1.22 for a while and it was a great setup. I just gave up on this because the cost was too high for me. __________________ 3 Head IG Radical MP Gamma X6-FC // Member of 18x20 club

05-17-2011, 02:04 PM	#45
Bahama Scott New User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Inverness, FL Posts: 88	Parasailing, my setup is Aeropro Drive Cortex Scorpion 1.22 48lbs X VS 17 52lbs. It took a couple of hours to break in and I now have about 15 hours and it is just great....spin, power, control, love the feel but that's my deal. On my next setup I am going to drop both tensions down 2 pounds but next time I am going to use the WT 1.2 __________________ 2 Aeropro Drive Cortex Performaxx WT 17L / Weiss Scorpion 1.22 45/41 1 Pure Drive+ Performaxx WT 17L / Weiss Scorpion 1.22 45/41 Last edited by Bahama Scott : 05-17-2011 at 02:07 PM.

05-17-2011, 03:33 PM	#47
Bahama Scott New User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Inverness, FL Posts: 88	I originally strung it at 54/58. It was really unbelievable for about 10 hours BUT then the tension fell off dramatically and it took a lot of adjusting to compensate for the extra power. Weiss STRONGLY recommends 52 pounds max. At my current tension, it wasn't quite as remarkable at first (still better than anything else including full VS gut) but I have not noticed any real degradation in the performance so far. __________________ 2 Aeropro Drive Cortex Performaxx WT 17L / Weiss Scorpion 1.22 45/41 1 Pure Drive+ Performaxx WT 17L / Weiss Scorpion 1.22 45/41

06-01-2011, 06:18 AM	#60
TimothyO Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Baseline Posts: 2,244	How can you tell the poly crosses specifically are dead? __________________ L27" \| 95" \| 16x19 \| Flex 57 \| 336g \| 8 HL \| SW 320 VS Longevity / IsoSpeed Black Fire 17 @ 56 / 50