To Finally put this all to bed, read this months RSI

[lelopez]

Pics should be easy to get to by getting a temporary username and password at www.racquettech.com

L.

[Verbal_Kint]

www.rnix.nl/wilson.htm


Marnix

[lelopez]

Thanks Marnix. Lot of nCodes in there right? Federer must go through racquets like toilet paper

[PureCarlosMoyaDrive]

Well, since like every pro is gonna be using that paintjob now, theres definately gotta be a lot. They've got tons of racquets though, can't they just give me like 2 of those fake n-codes....

[gregraven]

Originally Posted by dander

can you post this? most of us don't have acess to RSI

While I am gratified to learn that this article is being well received, please keep in mind that this material is copyrighted. Fair Use allows quoting up to 500 words, but posting the entire article is a violation of copyright laws, especially considering that the person who posted the article failed to include the author's name, the magazine name, the date, volume, and number of the magazine, the page number on which it appeared, or any contact information about the copyright holder.

The photos also are copyrighted, and may not be reproduced without prior written consent by the copyright holder.

[gregraven]

Originally Posted by Verbal_Kint

www.rnix.nl/wilson.htm


Marnix

The photos that you have posted on your website are copyright material. I must ask that you remove them immediately.

[BDAZ]

where did all those pictures come from? they weren't all in the new RSI, were they?

[lelopez]

The article posting has been removed. The pictures are from the July 2004 issue of the RSI Magazine's website.

[Verbal_Kint]

I have no access to my ftp-server at the moment. I'll remove the picture tomorrow when I do have access. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to post them.

Marnix

[BLiND]

This is the internet, there are no laws on here guys... thats what is so great about it

[gregraven]

Thanks you both, lelopez and Verbal_Kint, for understanding USRSA's position.

As for BLIND, what's great about the Internet is not that it's lawless, but rather that it provides access to information. Not all information is available on the Internet, and not all of that which is available is free, however. Additionally, I think that you'll find that the widespread usage of the Internet did not invalidate copyright law.

[BLiND]

Yeah its not lawless, bad choice of words, but information is freely avaliable... which whats great ... copyrighted info is freely avaliable too... keep it up guys!

[SEVASTASE]

greggraven...relax...big deal...what in the world is so classified about that crap anyway. its pretty basic simple stuff that can be done by yourself if you wanna apply....by the way : it is false advertising. if wilson takes a bunch of ncodes(what a idiotic name anyway)and gives them to federer right of the shelf do you think he would play tomorrow @ wimbledon with them?...no! by the way .....the raquet industry has hit its dead end a few years ago as far as optimal players frame is concerned. thats why there are so many paint jobs out there. prestige classic,tour, pogo, prostaff 85 and 6.1 and many more those are the best frames those brands could come up with. hyper, hot melt, liquid, intelligence, NANOTECH?....lol,do they market to retards?....marketing gimmiks. which is ok but please dont try to sell honey to the beekeeper. if they make a basic frame better (structurally) then pro staff 85 , or 6.1 in wilsons case for example....call me , and call pete too, and just about everybody on the tour....my 2 cents.

[LSee19]

While I can understand that the photos taken from the magazine were not properly used, the USRSA should focus it's attention on pro paintjobs and how these paintjobs lie to consumers. While I understand that racquet companies sometimes make changes to a racquet used by a pro or make a totally custom frame, it's the lying at drives me nuts. I just bought new racquets last year (Wilson Tour 90's) and they play great. But now they won't make them anymore thanks to more marketing gimmicks. Don't you think the USRSA should fight this crap from taking place. The USRSA should prevent this from happening from consumers in the tennis industry. If the WWE can admit their form of "sports entertainment" is scripted and planned, I think these manufacturers can put the proper paintjobs on pro racquets.

[LSee19]

whoops, made a typo.....I mean't ".....The USRSA should prevent this from happening TO consumers in the tennis industry......"

[gregraven]

Originally Posted by LSee19

(snip) I just bought new racquets last year (Wilson Tour 90's) and they play great. But now they won't make them anymore thanks to more marketing gimmicks. (snip)

LSee19, I'm having a bit of difficulty following your train of thought. If you bought racquets that you really like, why are you angry at Wilson? Would you be happier if they made Federer's racquet available to you (assuming it's different in some way from the retail version), even if you didn't like it and/or couldn't play with it? How about if you couldn't afford it? I'm not defending paint jobs, but one person at Wilson told me that if they made Taylor Dent's racquet available to the public, Taylor would have a couple dozen (or whatever), Phil would have a few, I'd have four of them, and the rest of the 10,000 production run would be sitting on shelves, because virtually no recreational player would even consider playing with such as racquet. So, you have a choice: make the pros play what we play, no matter how bad it is for their game or their health, or you buy the racquet you like best at a more or less reasonable price, and let the racquet companies advertise as they see fit. To look at it another way, if your favorite character in your favorite TV show drives a Dodge Durango (which is almost certainly there because of a form of advertising known as product placement), would you buy a Durango even if what really suited you was the PT Cruiser?

[dander]

there you go, raven, embodying the old adage "speak rationally and carry a 414 gram stick"
teddy roosevelt would be proud...

[Shane Reynolds]

Greg, I'm not sure you properly credited LSee19 in your post. Does Mr. Dent know that you uttered his name without his expressed written consent?