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Old 07-03-2004, 05:18 PM   #21
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It is not Roddick's fault that the seeds didn't come through his part of the draw to meet him. Obviously they weren't good enough to beat the "non-seeds" or "lower ranked" players. But when Andy played them, he beat them. Andy was good enough to get the job done while the other seeds couldn't.

And you can only play who's put in front of you.

As to 1 v. 8, 2 v. 7.....seedings have always EITHER put it 1 v. 7 OR 1 v. 8.....there was never a set pattern.
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Old 07-04-2004, 11:36 AM   #22
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As to 1 v. 8, 2 v. 7.....seedings have always EITHER put it 1 v. 7 OR 1 v. 8.....there was never a set pattern.
do simple math and look at the history of seeding. any fool knows the 1 is supposed to play the 8 and 2 vs 7. the #1 is supposed to get the benefit of the draw not the #2. its almost impossible to argue because its common sense. a fair draw says the numbers come out equal for all players, an unfair draw says they dont.
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:03 PM   #23
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As to 1 v. 8, 2 v. 7.....seedings have always EITHER put it 1 v. 7 OR 1 v. 8.....there was never a set pattern.
do simple math and look at the history of seeding. any fool knows the 1 is supposed to play the 8 and 2 vs 7. the #1 is supposed to get the benefit of the draw not the #2. its almost impossible to argue because its common sense. a fair draw says the numbers come out equal for all players, an unfair draw says they dont.
I understand your point and I agree with you but it has been this way for awhile. Look at the grand slam seeding placements in the recent years. The Wimbledon draw this year wasn't made JUST to benefit "Rodneck".
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:46 PM   #24
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As long as Roger remains No.1 and Andy remains No. 2 seed at Wimbledon, Tim Henman and Andy will be placed in the easier half. A lot of people (Lleyton, Moya, Grosjean, Safin, etc.) in the top half may very well have stopped Andy if the draw were reversed. The only legitimate one on the bottom half is Tim Henman (excluding black horses). Watch for next year's draw: same thing.
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Federer played Hewitt and Grosjean in the QF and SF. Roddick played Schalken and then Ancic. The apparent ease with which Federer beat Hewitt and Grosjean isn't the point. The point is Hewitt and Grosjean are much better players than Schalken and Ancic.

Are you talking about the same Ancic who wiped the floor with Federer at Wimbledon a few years ago? Ahh, i must be mistaken.


Now everyone is bashing Roddick for the draw. HE HAS NO F'N CONTROL OVER HOW THE DRAW COMES OUT. He plays who he has to, that's it.


And to the troll who said that Popp and Dent aren't good players....THEY'RE AWESOME ON GRASS! Popp had made the Quarter's every year he played until this year against Roddick. Dent's game is taylor-made for grass.
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A lot of people (Lleyton, Moya, Grosjean, Safin, etc.) in the top half may very well have stopped Andy if the draw were reversed.
I disagree. We'll never know, but Andy would have been the fave in any of those match-ups.

Safin couldn't get past the first round, against a guy ranked No. 97.

This is the first time Moya has gotten past the second round of Wimbledon in about 7 tries, and Andy is 3-0 over him.

Andy beat Hewitt and Grosjean at Queen's in two sets a couple weeks ago (he beat Grosjean last year in two sets as well).

Don't know who "etc." is, but imo, the biggest threat to Andy other than Roger was Henman. Andy doesn't have a great record against Tim, and he would have had to play all of Britain as well as Tim. He got a bit lucky that Tim didn't advance, although to be honest, I saw several of Tim's matches, and he was looking less than sharp the whole fortnight. Talk about pressure!
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