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Old 07-24-2011, 07:46 PM   #1
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What is the hardest, most competitive section in the United States? (Florida, Southern, East... etc.)
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:12 PM   #2
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if everyone who is from SoCal stays in SoCal then SoCal would be the toughest,..but we lose a bunch of our top players to the USTA and they go train in Florida year-round and this makes our section weak...
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:36 PM   #3
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Id say flordia and so cal are toughest... then eastern norcal southern southwest texas ... then intermountain pacific northwest middle states new eng...I hear hawaii and missouri valley blow..
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:46 PM   #4
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1. Southern Cal
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Northern Cal

I say 3 and 4 are pretty close. Texas has lots of numbers forsure
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I'm not saying that the ******* should be up there with So Cal, but it should definitely at least be in the discussion.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:34 AM   #6
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Supposed to say m i d w e s t
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:31 PM   #7
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florida,southern,southern cal
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PNW is up there. boys 12 and 14 #1's in nation r from washington.
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PNW is up there. boys 12 and 14 #1's in nation r from washington.
One player does not a strong section make.
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florida,southern,southern cal
totally agreed.
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One player does not a strong section make.
Florida is much deeper than Washington.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:53 PM   #12
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Probably northern
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:53 AM   #13
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I think it's the depth of players not just the few who are blue chippers that make a section tough.

I am often surprised when juniors move from our section (Texas) where they were ranked in the 40 -50's and they show as being in the top 10 in their new section and sometimes #1 in the state that they move too.

Probably should be a new thread but how is every section set up to track/manage juniors? In Texas there are 3 levels, ZATs, Champs and Super Champs. To move onto each level you have to accumulate points from the best of 3-4 tournaments (# of tournaments depends on level) on a rolling calendar year. So for B12's there are around 584 ranked players in all three divisions. Boys 16's has close to 1200 ranked players.

One kid is listed as #1 Oregon but is in the 60's (after playing a year here) in TX.
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i think texas is one of the harder ones
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One player does not a strong section make.
Ok Yoda....
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Probably northern
Northern... heard they arnt the best... but ******* id put up there
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Probably northern
I play in the northern section and although our highest kid for the 14's is only number 40 something we are a pretty deep section with our level 3's and 4's being highly competitive
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1. Florida
2. Socal
3. Southern
4. Norcal
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16 zonals is wrapping up in Texas and 2 TX teams will be playing for the championship. The order of the first 5 finishers is 3 Texas teams, 1 of the Eastern teams, the 4th Tx team. Texas and Eastern sent 4 teams, Pacific Northwest 2 and Northern 2.

Of note was the how dominating the TX teams were in doubles.

I would agree with Florida and the California sections being 1, 2, 3 but would put Texas after that.

I have heard from college coaches that they also list the sections in that order.
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16 zonals is wrapping up in Texas and 2 TX teams will be playing for the championship. The order of the first 5 finishers is 3 Texas teams, 1 of the Eastern teams, the 4th Tx team. Texas and Eastern sent 4 teams, Pacific Northwest 2 and Northern 2.

Of note was the how dominating the TX teams were in doubles.

I would agree with Florida and the California sections being 1, 2, 3 but would put Texas after that.

I have heard from college coaches that they also list the sections in that order.
Your Zonals example is not a good one - check the local ranking of the Eastern girls who are playing there. I believe they could not even find 24 girls and are using local substitutes. Not many players who qualified for Supernats will also fly across the country to play at 120F heat in Waco, TX.
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