Völkl C10 Pro Club!

[tennisamba]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

This is a soft, traditional graphite frame, softer than the V1 with a stiffer hoop than the C10 Pro. Your V1 tension range should be a good start. If you want a stiffer string bed, string it 24kg both cross and mains. If you want a more plush string bed, like the V1, drop the cross string tension 1 kg.

The racquet now has a poly at 24/23. I 'll try it and then I cut and follow your suggestion. Thanks!

[TennisMaverick]

Originally Posted by tennisamba

The racquet now has a poly at 24/23. I 'll try it and then I cut and follow your suggestion. Thanks!

Poly at that tension is pretty tight. I hope that you are hitting on red clay and swing very fast!

[tennisamba]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

Poly at that tension is pretty tight. I hope that you are hitting on red clay and swing very fast!

TM,

can you explain me why?

[TennisMaverick]

Originally Posted by tennisamba

TM,

can you explain me why?

It's a feel stick, and very soft. If you string it tight with poly, there will be no power and little responsiveness off the string bed, so you will have to swing fast to generate. Hitting flat with full poly is useless and painful. Hitting heavy topspin on hard court, invites getting attacked on the first short ball. Hence, you better be swinging fast, hitting topspin, and doing it on clay.

[tennisamba]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

It's a feel stick, and very soft. If you string it tight with poly, there will be no power and little responsiveness off the string bed, so you will have to swing fast to generate. Hitting flat with full poly is useless and painful. Hitting heavy topspin on hard court, invites getting attacked on the first short ball. Hence, you better be swinging fast, hitting topspin, and doing it on clay.

Thanks TM !

[tennisamba]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

It's a feel stick, and very soft. If you string it tight with poly, there will be no power and little responsiveness off the string bed, so you will have to swing fast to generate. Hitting flat with full poly is useless and painful. Hitting heavy topspin on hard court, invites getting attacked on the first short ball. Hence, you better be swinging fast, hitting topspin, and doing it on clay.

I have tried it and I am really impressed. I used just a couple of minutes on hard court and then 30 mins on clay. Now I cut the strings and use Gripper on it. It's very soft and I am amazed on how precise it is. Probably it is wrong what I am saying but the feeling in the string bed reminds me a 18x20. On clay, where I could swing slower I have really appreciated the ball pocketing and dwell time. I do not want to compare it with BB V1 but one thing is sure: BB V1 is not so addictive!

[TennisMaverick]

Originally Posted by tennisamba

I have tried it and I am really impressed. I used just a couple of minutes on hard court and then 30 mins on clay. Now I cut the strings and use Gripper on it. It's very soft and I am amazed on how precise it is. Probably it is wrong what I am saying but the feeling in the string bed reminds me a 18x20. On clay, where I could swing slower I have really appreciated the ball pocketing and dwell time. I do not want to compare it with BB V1 but one thing is sure: BB V1 is not so addictive!

It is a true player's frame. I assume that you play at a high level to have enjoyed it so much.

[tennisamba]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

It is a true player's frame. I assume that you play at a high level to have enjoyed it so much.

No, my level is 4.0-4.5 NTRP. I have always played with player's racquets (my first racquet was a wooden maxply mcenroe when I was 12).
I have really liked this frame because it reminds me the feeling I need to find when I construct every shot, since I have a lot of feedback to correct myself. And the feeling is beautiful, when I relax my arm, use my trunk and legs and grind the ball ...

This does not happen with my V1, which are far more generous, they give easy power even if do not hit well but they do not allow me to understand what I am doing....

[TennisMaverick]

Originally Posted by tennisamba

No, my level is 4.0-4.5 NTRP. I have always played with player's racquets (my first racquet was a wooden maxply mcenroe when I was 12).
I have really liked this frame because it reminds me the feeling I need to find when I construct every shot, since I have a lot of feedback to correct myself. And the feeling is beautiful, when I relax my arm, use my trunk and legs and grind the ball ...

This does not happen with my V1, which are far more generous, they give easy power even if do not hit well but they do not allow me to understand what I am doing....

Lead your V1 up to feel like your C10 Pro. V1s fully loaded, play real well, very cushioned, with tons of dwell time and control. I have a Classic V1 fully loaded, and just sold my loaded PB V1 to "pneumated", but they both allow me to play with anyone. It's not as precise as my PB 10 Mid/London tour, but a 102in2 is not supposed to be as dead-on as a 93in2. If you ever see a Catapult V10 online for sale, buy it. It is the VE player's version of a Cat V1, weighing-in near 12 oz strung. Mantilla and Bethany Mattick used it BITD. One of my guys uses it as soon as his wrist issue becomes symptomatic, and plays almost as well as he does with his Melbourne.

[tennisamba]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

Lead your V1 up to feel like your C10 Pro. V1s fully loaded, play real well, very cushioned, with tons of dwell time and control. I have a Classic V1 fully loaded, and just sold my loaded PB V1 to "pneumated", but they both allow me to play with anyone. It's not as precise as my PB 10 Mid/London tour, but a 102in2 is not supposed to be as dead-on as a 93in2. If you ever see a Catapult V10 online for sale, buy it. It is the VE player's version of a Cat V1, weighing-in near 12 oz strung. Mantilla and Bethany Mattick used it BITD. One of my guys uses it as soon as his wrist issue becomes symptomatic, and plays almost as well as he does with his Melbourne.

Sorry to reply late, TM.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I'll try to find a V10. Meanwhile I'll use more lead tape (gradually) and probably I also put a leather grip on my V1.

P.S. The racquet I described is not a C10 pro; it is a tour 10 Gen II.

[TennisMaverick]

Originally Posted by tennisamba

Sorry to reply late, TM.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I'll try to find a V10. Meanwhile I'll use more lead tape (gradually) and probably I also put a leather grip on my V1.

P.S. The racquet I described is not a C10 pro; it is a tour 10 Gen II.

OK....then match the balance and feel to your Gen II. You will also need to string it a few lbs tighter to match the string bed.

[tennisamba]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

V1s fully loaded, play real well, very cushioned, with tons of dwell time and control. I have a Classic V1 fully loaded, and just sold my loaded PB V1 to "pneumated", but they both allow me to play with anyone. It's not as precise as my PB 10 Mid/London tour, but a 102in2 is not supposed to be as dead-on as a 93in2. If you ever see a Catapult V10 online for sale, buy it.

Can you compare the V10 and the Sportster, please?

Does a mod BB V1 play close to the Sportster?

Thank you!

[TennisMaverick]

Originally Posted by tennisamba

Can you compare the V10 and the Sportster, please?

Does a mod BB V1 play close to the Sportster?

Thank you!

The Sportster feels softer and a little more solid. Some felt that the BB V1 was a little hollow in feel, but it was extremely popular. Modifying the BB V1 will make it feel similar to the Sportster, but at a few grams heavier. Try one gram on each inside area of the "V", and 1.5 grams on the bridge, and see how it feels.

The V10 VE is a catapult, so there is a lot of power, plus, it is 315 grams unstrung, and of course, it is a V Engine. It is the player's version of the Catapult V1; heavier and a little stiffer. It is a hefty frame.

[tennisamba]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

The Sportster feels softer and a little more solid. Some felt that the BB V1 was a little hollow in feel, but it was extremely popular. Modifying the BB V1 will make it feel similar to the Sportster, but at a few grams heavier. Try one gram on each inside area of the "V", and 1.5 grams on the bridge, and see how it feels.

The V10 VE is a catapult, so there is a lot of power, plus, it is 315 grams unstrung, and of course, it is a V Engine. It is the player's version of the Catapult V1; heavier and a little stiffer. It is a hefty frame.

Thanks a lot, TM!

My mod BB V1, following your suggestions (lead tape at 3/6/9 plus 4.5 inches along the V), plays very good. I also feel it better after replacing the syn grip with a leather one. It seems softer, less stiff and more stable. Now it weighs 318 grams, so at this point I think I do not need a sportster. I 'll save my money to try a London and I'll keep on looking for a V10, which is very hard to find.

[chrischris]

Originally Posted by Automatix

I don't use one because I couldn't get my hands on my favourite of the C10 Pro line the Xtended version.

Loved that frame. Lighter than the standard, ca. 310g, 27,6 inches long. Very mobile.

Where can you get that version i.e. the longer one?

[Cesare]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

The Sportster feels softer and a little more solid. Some felt that the BB V1 was a little hollow in feel, but it was extremely popular. Modifying the BB V1 will make it feel similar to the Sportster, but at a few grams heavier. Try one gram on each inside area of the "V", and 1.5 grams on the bridge, and see how it feels.

The V10 VE is a catapult, so there is a lot of power, plus, it is 315 grams unstrung, and of course, it is a V Engine. It is the player's version of the Catapult V1; heavier and a little stiffer. It is a hefty frame.

that's a great frame too, way better than Pure drives, etc..

[TennisMaverick]

What kind of PJ should the next version have?

[Cesare]

Originally Posted by TennisMaverick

What kind of PJ should the next version have?

Mav, i hope that they will go with something new. or if they want to stay with Yellow and Black, maybe a reissue of the first Volkl Servo's color scheme, this one:

http://80s-tennis.com/pages/voelkl-servo.html

I like this one more than the World Cup's paint job.
As a side note, tonight first match with my brand new X 10 325. I'll keep you updated on the X 10 thread.

[TennisMaverick]

Originally Posted by Cesare

Mav, i hope that they will go with something new. or if they want to stay with Yellow and Black, maybe a reissue of the first Volkl Servo's color scheme, this one:

http://80s-tennis.com/pages/voelkl-servo.html

I like this one more than the World Cup's paint job.
As a side note, tonight first match with my brand new X 10 325. I'll keep you updated on the X 10 thread.

That would actually be cool. I have a few of those, although, I didn't play with them BITD.

[Rabbit]

Originally Posted by chrischris

Where can you get that version i.e. the longer one?

Back when the C10 lines was first introduced, there were 3 models, the C10, C10 Xtended, and C10 OS. The latter two were spectacular frames, neither sold well and both were discontinued.