Dealing with a foot faulter in your league - Page 3

sphinx780 · 10-03-2011, 06:20 PM

I've only come across this issue in a league dubs match where I noticed it. I just waited until after the match and told him then. No muss, no fuss.

Fedace · 10-03-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sphinx780

I've only come across this issue in a league dubs match where I noticed it. I just waited until after the match and told him then. No muss, no fuss.

He won't believe you. he will just think you are a sore loser.

Only way anybody who footfaults will believe what you say is IF you Video tape his serving and his foot then show him right after the game,,,,then he will believe you. Otherwise, he will just think you are a Liar and a sore loser.

Timbo's hopeless slice · 10-04-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Backhand DTL

anyone who calls foot faults is a ******!

you could always learn to serve legally if it annoys you that much...

kingdaddy41788 · 10-04-2011, 09:05 PM

How can anyone argue that footfaulting isn't cheating? Because "everyone does it"? That's a ridiculous argument. It's cheating. Pure and simple. Every bit as much as hooking someone on a line call. If you're breaking the rule, and you know you're breaking the rule, you're cheating. Period.

I'm 5' 8" and I have no problem serving from behind the baseline. I think everyone else can do it too...

volleygirl · 10-05-2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbo's hopeless slice

you could always learn to serve legally if it annoys you that much...

Exactly. If youre footfaulting all the time, your serve actually sucks. Even if you get them in all the time and your proud of your serves, they are all actually illegal. Call the footfaults!!!!

tennis tom · 10-05-2011, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kingdaddy41788

How can anyone argue that footfaulting isn't cheating? Because "everyone does it"? That's a ridiculous argument. It's cheating. Pure and simple. Every bit as much as hooking someone on a line call. If you're breaking the rule, and you know you're breaking the rule, you're cheating. Period.

I'm 5' 8" and I have no problem serving from behind the baseline. I think everyone else can do it too...

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Originally Posted by volleygirl

Exactly. If youre footfaulting all the time, your serve actually sucks. Even if you get them in all the time and your proud of your serves, they are all actually illegal. Call the footfaults!!!!

x'2

If you are a foot faulter, you are cheating. It's SO easy to fix-- all you have to do is move back a few inches--no big deal. If someone tells you, you are foot faulting, they are doing you a big favor, because some day it will come back to bite you badly if you compete. Or socially, people will talk behind your back and call you a "FOOT FAULTER" and you will not be invited to the right parties. If people make you aware of the problem and you do nothing to fix it, you are either stupid, arrogant or have psychological problems and should see a tennis psychologist.

sundaypunch · 10-05-2011, 05:30 PM

You can rip a shot down the line that is out by a half inch. No one would say, "that was such a good shot, lets call it good". I don't know why anyone would look at a foot fault as no big deal.

spot · 10-06-2011, 04:15 AM

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I don't know why anyone would look at a foot fault as no big deal.

Are you joking? I'd guess 60% of rec players footfault. I really wouldn't want you on my team if you want to make a big deal out of footfaulting.

tennis tom · 10-06-2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by spot

Are you joking? I'd guess 60% of rec players footfault. I really wouldn't want you on my team if you want to make a big deal out of footfaulting.

What's the name of your team, "the Mediocres"?

spot · 10-06-2011, 07:38 AM

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What's the name of your team, "the Mediocres"?

We play Rec Tennis. I think pretty much by definition even the good players are mediocre. If you really care about footfaults in rec tennis then you are taking yourself far too seriously.

volleygirl · 10-06-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spot

We play Rec Tennis. I think pretty much by definition even the good players are mediocre. If you really care about footfaults in rec tennis then you are taking yourself far too seriously.

Are you one of the guys who plays rec basketball at the YMCA and just looks the other way when the opponent double dribbles, or take 5 or 6 steps before making a layup?

newton296 · 10-06-2011, 08:14 AM

ran into a foot faulter in a league match about a year ago. he started behind the line, then stepped over it a good foot during his motion. I thought about calling him on it but it was such an easy win for me I didn't bother. ( I won the last set 6-0 )

if it was a close match, I would just call it on him as soon as I first saw it, he might get mad but if he is clearly foot faulting what can he say? cmon , its cheating. clear and simple. foot faulting repeatedly is just as much cheating as calling balls out that were clearly in.

you gotta say something!

sphinx780 · 10-06-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedace

He won't believe you. he will just think you are a sore loser.

Only way anybody who footfaults will believe what you say is IF you Video tape his serving and his foot then show him right after the game,,,,then he will believe you. Otherwise, he will just think you are a Liar and a sore loser.

Looks like it's high time I invest in a racquet cam

tennis tom · 10-06-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by spot

We play Rec Tennis. I think pretty much by definition even the good players are mediocre. If you really care about footfaults in rec tennis then you are taking yourself far too seriously.

By my definition "good players" are good because they have the desire to be good players and learn the rules of the sport of tennis, written and unwritten, and try their best to follow them. There's nothing wrong with mediocre, by definition it means average and by definition most folks are average. Am I taking myself "far too seriously"?, I certainly hope so. Although I may never be a champion I hope to strive to be the best I can be at the sport I love, and minimally try to behave like one. And if I'm ever on the court with a champion, I hope not to make as *** out of myself by not knowing and doing the most fundamental things that are easily fixable like foot-faulting.

At the rec level I've given up on getting excited about foot faulting, it would just slow down my practice, BUT I do note it and think less of the person doing it. At the tournament level, a roving umpire would take care of it for me, or if my opponent was doing it egregiously, I would follow the rules and inform them, then call an umpire to officiate, if they continued. Fortunately, I've never had to do that, because good players don't foot fault, or on the rare occasion they do, if called on it, they fix it. They don't cry like a baby and say something stupid and lawyerly, like "It's only a technical violation," or sociopathic like, "I'm going to shove this ball down your throat and kill you".

Bhagi Katbamna · 10-06-2011, 09:56 AM

Most people in rec leagues don't want to cheat. Just tell him. I suspect that he might actually appreceate it.

volleygirl · 10-06-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tennis tom

By my definition "good players" are good because they have the desire to be good players and learn the rules of the sport of tennis, written and unwritten, and try their best to follow them. There's nothing wrong with mediocre, by definition it means average and by definition most folks are average. Am I taking myself "far too seriously"?, I certainly hope so. Although I may never be a champion I hope to strive to be the best I can be at the sport I love, and to minimally behave like one. And if I'm ever on the court with a champion, I hope not to make as *** out of myself by not knowing and doing the most fundamental things that are easily fixable like foot-faulting.

At the rec level I've given up on getting excited about foot faulting, it would just slow down my practice, BUT I do note it and think less of the person doing it. At the tournament level, a roving umpire would take care of it for me, or if my opponent was doing it egregiously, I would follow the rules and inform them, then call an umpire to officiate, if they continued. Fortunately, I've never had to do that, because good players don't foot fault, or on the rare occasion they do, if called on it, they fix it. They don't cry like a baby and say something stupid and lawyerly, like "It's only a technical violation," or sociopathic like, "I'm going to shove this ball down your throat and kill you".

Nice post. Agree with you totally.

tennis tom · 10-06-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhagi Katbamna

Most people in rec leagues don't want to cheat. Just tell him. I suspect that he might actually appreceate it.

Sorry that's not been my personal experience of late, they either are insulted, indignant, indifferent or thank me and keep on foot faulting. So that's why I don't make an issue of it at the rec/league level, and in the Seniors it's not an issue. It's like disciplining other people's children when their parents won't, you run the risk of being called a ****.

Bhagi Katbamna · 10-06-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tennis tom

Sorry that's not been my personal experience of late, they either are insulted, indignant, indifferent or thank me and keep on foot faulting. So that's why I don't make an issue of it at the rec/league level, and in the Seniors it's not an issue. It's like disciplining other people's children when their parents won't, you run the risk of being called a ****.

Well, I'm sorry for you. That doesn't sound like fun playing in that sort of league.

Timbo's hopeless slice · 10-06-2011, 03:43 PM

I am just amazed that so many people here seem to think it's ok to foot fault. I mean, WTF????

You are cheating, people, that's all there is to it.

LEARN TO SERVE!!!!!!!!!

rjw · 10-06-2011, 04:42 PM

+1 try to play by the rules....it's not that hard to do

10-03-2011, 06:20 PM	#41
sphinx780 Professional Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,015	I've only come across this issue in a league dubs match where I noticed it. I just waited until after the match and told him then. No muss, no fuss. __________________ Boris Becker Melbourne "To resist despair in this world is what it is to be free"

10-04-2011, 09:05 PM	#44
kingdaddy41788 Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,754	How can anyone argue that footfaulting isn't cheating? Because "everyone does it"? That's a ridiculous argument. It's cheating. Pure and simple. Every bit as much as hooking someone on a line call. If you're breaking the rule, and you know you're breaking the rule, you're cheating. Period. I'm 5' 8" and I have no problem serving from behind the baseline. I think everyone else can do it too... __________________ USPTA Certified, NTRP: 4.5

10-06-2011, 09:56 AM	#55
Bhagi Katbamna Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,606	Most people in rec leagues don't want to cheat. Just tell him. I suspect that he might actually appreceate it. __________________ The truth isn't mean. It's the truth. Andrew Breitbart.

10-06-2011, 03:43 PM	#59
Timbo's hopeless slice Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,103	I am just amazed that so many people here seem to think it's ok to foot fault. I mean, WTF???? You are cheating, people, that's all there is to it. LEARN TO SERVE!!!!!!!!! __________________ 5.0 all courter. Betting the house on black 7 spades.. (Volkl X-7 310 WITH CYCLONE @ 55) "Tennis isn't easy" - Corners

10-06-2011, 04:42 PM	#60
rjw Professional Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 987	+1 try to play by the rules....it's not that hard to do __________________ 2x APDGT, Ektelon H, SP Lite on steroids