Most talented player of all time - Page 13

hawk eye · 10-21-2011, 04:00 AM

Pete Sampras.
Most natural fluent game ever.

hawk eye · 10-21-2011, 04:05 AM

No i'n no 15 year old wiseguy.
I've seen them play from Borg/ McEnroe/Connors on.

Laver was too early for me to see him play live.

TCTEN · 10-21-2011, 05:38 AM

Most talented that I've seen.. Federer.

ricki · 10-21-2011, 06:00 AM

SANTORO, no question

tennisjon · 10-21-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic of tennis

I am sure the most talented player should be either Federer or Sampras. Record tells fact

Records don't speak of talent per se. Rios is just as or more talented, but didn't put it together. Greatest of all time, sure put Federer, Sampras, Laver in there. They are also supremely talented too. But to leave someone out like Rios (who Nick B. himself said was the most talented of all) just because he didn't amass majors and a long career, is just not understanding the difference between GOAT and most talented.

Limpinhitter · 10-21-2011, 02:56 PM

Something's missing here!

pc1 · 10-21-2011, 03:10 PM

Some great talents who I think accomplished less than they should of for various reasons like injuries, temperment etc.

Nastase
Mecir
Hoad (He accomplished a lot but many who saw him felt he was the most gifted player ever.)
Leconte
Kovacs
Roche
Vijay Amritraj
Rios
Vines

Magic of tennis · 10-21-2011, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pc1

Some great talents who I think accomplished less than they should up for various reasons like injuries, temperment etc.

Nastase
Mecir
Hoad (He accomplished a lot but many who saw him felt he was the most gifted player ever.)
Leconte
Kovacs
Roche
Vijay Amritraj
Rios
Vines

I don't know anyone except Rios. It must be older generation

Magic of tennis · 10-21-2011, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limpinhitter

Something's missing here!

agree with you

chrischris · 10-22-2011, 02:38 AM

Pernfors was a funny player to watch when on. Same goes for Leconte.

Imo Federer, Sampras, Nastase , Mcenroe, Rios ,Laver, Edberg,Mecir stand out.

pc1 · 10-22-2011, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic of tennis

I don't know anyone except Rios. It must be older generation

Here's a vid of Nastase.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf4wrrpzdYc

Here's a few vids of Mecir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlb5P...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2bzlj4ypvw

Here's a video of Tony Roche against Rosewall in a losing effort.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJubuKDN7Fk

Here's Vijay Amritraj against a young Borg in the US Open in 1974
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDFd4q3CycU

kiki · 10-23-2011, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisjon

Records don't speak of talent per se. Rios is just as or more talented, but didn't put it together. Greatest of all time, sure put Federer, Sampras, Laver in there. They are also supremely talented too. But to leave someone out like Rios (who Nick B. himself said was the most talented of all) just because he didn't amass majors and a long career, is just not understanding the difference between GOAT and most talented.

Nick Bolletieri cetainly knew how to take advantage of average players -except Courier,Seles and Agassi, who certainly weren´t average players-, but he is not qualified at all to talk about something he´s never recognized: talent.So boring his players played, with a very few exceptions, that once you see one , you´ve seen them all.He is the most overrated coach I can think of...

kiki · 10-23-2011, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pc1

Some great talents who I think accomplished less than they should of for various reasons like injuries, temperment etc.

Nastase
Mecir
Hoad (He accomplished a lot but many who saw him felt he was the most gifted player ever.)
Leconte
Kovacs
Roche
Vijay Amritraj
Rios
Vines

That is great list, altough Vines himself accomplished quite a lot...why not Tappy Larsen, instead?...oh¡ and Gene Mayer, certainly belongs there...

pc1 · 10-23-2011, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiki

That is great list, altough Vines himself accomplished quite a lot...why not Tappy Larsen, instead?...oh¡ and Gene Mayer, certainly belongs there...

Yes both of them were extremely talented and could be there. I read one comment that Larsen's lefty backhand was perhaps the best lefty backhand ever and that's incredible considering the person making the comment knew of Laver and Connors.

Datacipher · 10-23-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pc1

Yes both of them were extremely talented and could be there. I read one comment that Larsen's lefty backhand was perhaps the best lefty backhand ever and that's incredible considering the person making the comment knew of Laver and Connors.

I wonder if anyone remembers a story where Larsen, on match point, took an easy overhead sitter, and feigned hitting an overhead, but instead, at the last second, flipped his racquet around, and using it like a pool cue, hit the ball over with the butt of racquet for a winner! I vaguely recall this, but can't be sure it was Larsen.

spazz · 10-23-2011, 07:54 AM

the Wimbledon finals of Borg/McEnroe and Nadal/Federer are justifiably celebrated, but I think the most staggering display of talent I ever saw was the Australian semi-final where Safin clipped Federer. The shot making and spontaneity were beyond belief. Safin's lack of discipline exchanged for the good life is now legend, but I think Federer may also have surrendered a little bit of the variety of his early game for a consistency that served him well before the rise of Nadal.

Limpinhitter · 10-23-2011, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datacipher

I wonder if anyone remembers a story where Larsen, on match point, took an easy overhead sitter, and feigned hitting an overhead, but instead, at the last second, flipped his racquet around, and using it like a pool cue, hit the ball over with the butt of racquet for a winner! I vaguely recall this, but can't be sure it was Larsen.

Apparently, Art "Tappy" Larsen suffered from a pretty severe case of OCD. His nickname "Tappy" came from his obsession to tap on "items around the tennis court." Gardner Mulloy descrdibed him as one with "so many superstitions." He also spent some time on the front lines in WWII. A head injury, or scarlet fever, could explain the OCD.

http://rjschwartz.blogspot.com/2011/...edon-2011.html

TCTEN · 10-23-2011, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCTEN

Most talented that I've seen.. Federer.

Career records aside my vote stays the same. I've never seen anyone with a more complete game. He can hit winners from anywhere on the court but he's smart enough to know when to go for them.

PrinceMoron · 10-23-2011, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotus

How about adding Rios to the list?

Yes, a worthy mention.

Benhur · 10-23-2011, 11:24 AM

I don't know if anyone has mentioned Ramesh Krishnan from India. I saw him play a few times on tv in the 80s. He had a very aesthetically pleasing game, and commentators often described his strokes as "smooth as silk" and his game "flowing like honey" and similar phrases. Not a hard hitter, but what you might call a touch player with extraordinary control. He won the Wimbledon and French Open junior titles in 1979. Extremely talented and promising player that never quite made it to the very top. His highest ranking was in the 20s.

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pc1 Legend Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7,148	Some great talents who I think accomplished less than they should of for various reasons like injuries, temperment etc. Nastase Mecir Hoad (He accomplished a lot but many who saw him felt he was the most gifted player ever.) Leconte Kovacs Roche Vijay Amritraj Rios Vines Last edited by pc1 : 10-22-2011 at 08:05 AM.

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spazz New User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 2nd Foundation Posts: 46	the Wimbledon finals of Borg/McEnroe and Nadal/Federer are justifiably celebrated, but I think the most staggering display of talent I ever saw was the Australian semi-final where Safin clipped Federer. The shot making and spontaneity were beyond belief. Safin's lack of discipline exchanged for the good life is now legend, but I think Federer may also have surrendered a little bit of the variety of his early game for a consistency that served him well before the rise of Nadal. __________________ "the key to the treasure is the treasure"

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10-21-2011, 06:00 AM	#244
ricki Semi-Pro Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Czech Rep. Posts: 596	SANTORO, no question