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Old 10-17-2011, 03:13 PM   #1381
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Me either! 25 pounds? I'd love to play someone with string tension that low.
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:39 PM   #1382
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Esp. w/ gut and a poly that powerful.
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:28 AM   #1383
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Wouldn't recommend that tension.

As of now, the Scorpion is the king. Perhaps I was just destined to use this stuff, who knows. I just turned someone else on to my original setup, Scorp/WT Pro and he loves it too. This is why I love stringing and being able to test strings: giving someone else something that makes them a better player based on your recommendation is a good feeling
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Old 10-19-2011, 02:15 PM   #1384
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Any desire to try the Storm again at a higher tension?
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:36 PM   #1385
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Strung racket with Proformaxx WT 1.20 mains and Weiss Cannon Scorpion Crosses. 50/47. Hated it!!! (for the first 15 minutes) Loved it from then on. Thanks PV. A great combo!
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:53 PM   #1386
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So you think he should have gone up/down 4 pounds on the setup? Right now I'm stringing WT/Scorp at 54/50 (probably will try 53/49). What would that mean for me if I decide to try Strom Metal too

Or were you referring to a different previously mentioned setup?
Are you stringing WT in the mains?
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:43 PM   #1387
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Wouldn't recommend that tension.

As of now, the Scorpion is the king. Perhaps I was just destined to use this stuff, who knows. I just turned someone else on to my original setup, Scorp/WT Pro and he loves it too. This is why I love stringing and being able to test strings: giving someone else something that makes them a better player based on your recommendation is a good feeling
PV forgive me for being a squeeky wheel here but can you provide some more thorough information about the two setups and compare or direct me to where you may have provided that information someplace else. The set ups I am referring to are the Scorp/Whispertouch or Light Touch at 41 pounds each and/or Whispertouch or Light Touch/Scorpion.

I just had my APD strung LT/Scorp 41/41 and it felt completely comfortable immediately. Only used it during half of one lesson and my pro commented on how active the ball was compared to another racquet.

Thanks for the information in advance.
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:48 PM   #1388
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Are you stringing WT in the mains?
Yup, and I'm about to compare the Scorp crosses to Storm crosses, one in each racquet, at the same tensions. Then I'll try out P'maxx Classic Touch.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:46 PM   #1389
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Yup, and I'm about to compare the Scorp crosses to Storm crosses, one in each racquet, at the same tensions. Then I'll try out P'maxx Classic Touch.
I am getting ready to try WT mains at the same tension 50 with hex crosses and see if I can tell a difference. What about this poster at 41lbs?
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:25 PM   #1390
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PV forgive me for being a squeeky wheel here but can you provide some more thorough information about the two setups and compare or direct me to where you may have provided that information someplace else. The set ups I am referring to are the Scorp/Whispertouch or Light Touch at 41 pounds each and/or Whispertouch or Light Touch/Scorpion.

I just had my APD strung LT/Scorp 41/41 and it felt completely comfortable immediately. Only used it during half of one lesson and my pro commented on how active the ball was compared to another racquet.

Thanks for the information in advance.
The reason I advocated the LT is because the poly feels outstanding at lower tensions. If you string WhisperTouch at such a low tension, you're going to get a panzerfaust instead of a stringbed. I tried LT at a cross at a tension far higher than recommended, and it predictably played about as good as a mediocre multifilament. Once I read the packaging instructions (I'm an engineer, cut me a break ), I realized it is meant to be used at lower tensions. Do not mistake however: LT gut / poly at low tension will not be similar to WT gut / poly at higher tension (even in the proper tension range for poly). The LT setup will still be lower powered, but will have more feel. It's a personal choice. I cannot vouch for using LT in the crosses in the low 40s as I did not do it.
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:56 AM   #1391
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I am getting ready to try WT mains at the same tension 50 with hex crosses and see if I can tell a difference. What about this poster at 41lbs?
I'm sorry, what?
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I'm sorry, what?
I was just shocked at anyone playing at 41lbs!
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:18 PM   #1393
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I wouldn't string that low either, but some people like it.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:05 PM   #1394
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The reason I advocated the LT is because the poly feels outstanding at lower tensions. If you string WhisperTouch at such a low tension, you're going to get a panzerfaust instead of a stringbed. I tried LT at a cross at a tension far higher than recommended, and it predictably played about as good as a mediocre multifilament. Once I read the packaging instructions (I'm an engineer, cut me a break ), I realized it is meant to be used at lower tensions. Do not mistake however: LT gut / poly at low tension will not be similar to WT gut / poly at higher tension (even in the proper tension range for poly). The LT setup will still be lower powered, but will have more feel. It's a personal choice. I cannot vouch for using LT in the crosses in the low 40s as I did not do it.
I was playing Klip legend gut 18ga mains with Head control crosses at 58lbs. The setup was OK. I replaced the crosses with WC Turbo twist at 53 lbs and still did not like it.
I wanted to try the Pmaxx LT 17L (1.20) so I ordered a set and strung it up ( always 2 piece) at 56lbs. I really liked it even though the range on the package was 25-50lbs.

Then I bought the WT 17L (1.20) strung that in the mains at 50 and WC Scorpion in the crosses at 47lbs. I like this setup best. I see the WT range is 50-60.
I am older and need some power. My next setup was going to be WT cross at 50 and msv focus hex at 47 just to see if I can tell the difference.

Next I want to use Pmaxx gut at a little lower tension in mains with scorpion crosses.
Which Pmaxx should I use and what tension do you recommend.

Thanks for all your help.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:15 PM   #1395
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Thanks PV for the explanation. I have just have one of my APD Cortex with the LT/Scorpion 41/41 and really enjoying it. It is very soft and gentle on my arm, spin is just terrific, power is a little bit less than my normal setup which is really good and allows me to swing away at the ball a little harder so I find the power just perfect. Others who are new to this might guess that this setup would be impossibly different but this particular setup is not. I just love this setup and will convert my other racqets soon.
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Thanks PV for the explanation. I have just have one of my APD Cortex with the LT/Scorpion 41/41 and really enjoying it. It is very soft and gentle on my arm, spin is just terrific, power is a little bit less than my normal setup which is really good and allows me to swing away at the ball a little harder so I find the power just perfect. Others who are new to this might guess that this setup would be impossibly different but this particular setup is not. I just love this setup and will convert my other racqets soon.
What tension were you using before the 41/41?
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:36 PM   #1397
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see my signature...Aeropro Drive Cortex Scorpion 1.22 50lbs X WT 17 53lbs
this setup is great also. lasted forever.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:22 PM   #1398
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PV forgive me for being a squeeky wheel here but can you provide some more thorough information about the two setups and compare or direct me to where you may have provided that information someplace else. The set ups I am referring to are the Scorp/Whispertouch or Light Touch at 41 pounds each and/or Whispertouch or Light Touch/Scorpion.

I just had my APD strung LT/Scorp 41/41 and it felt completely comfortable immediately. Only used it during half of one lesson and my pro commented on how active the ball was compared to another racquet.

Thanks for the information in advance.
Is it still working for you?
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:53 AM   #1399
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Keep switching between Co Focus and Scorpion. Damn these German polys, damn them. It's now become like my picking between Scorpion and B5E mains. Each has its own delicious feel. I don't think I tried LT/CoFocus at proper tension, but even now, after settling them in, I think the WT/CoFocus bed is better. The Scorpion gives more control, yes, but I don't know. It just lacks that responsiveness.
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Is it still working for you?
Yes! It is amazing! I've got all sorts of control and my topspin forhands and backhands are crazy...diving down then accelerating and jumping off the court. My new pro keeps saying wow look at the spin you are putting on the ball and this is with a new grip that I am working on.

I just bought a new/used racket that had about one hour on it strung with a poly (forget which one) and I took it out this morning. Played 5 minutes and put it up. I am having it re-strung today with the same configuration.

Interestingly the strings don't pop back into place like my older setups did at a more normal strength and with the whisper touch in the crosses with Scorpion in the mains...that string was ready to fall apart and yet the strings continued to go back into proper position.
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